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  • Random Goblin
    Nomad of the Time Streams
    • Jul 2005
    • 27

    Stormbringer artwork

    Yikes!

    Mr. Moorcock seems to be pretty unhappy with a lot of the artwork in Chaosium's Elric games.

    My mom did some of that art. I know they weren't earth's best drawings or anything, but I always liked them (she did most of the interior art for the Young Kingdoms northern continent sourcebook).
  • Dead-Air
    Eternal Champion
    • Jun 2004
    • 2737

    #2
    Wow, you're mom does game art as well as your dad? That's really cool! I think Michael is more disgusted with Chaosism for not giving him a cent in years and claiming the exclusive rights to his creations in gaming, than with anything to do with the art in the game.
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    • Random Goblin
      Nomad of the Time Streams
      • Jul 2005
      • 27

      #3
      Well, he's mentioned artwork specifically a couple of times. :(

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      • Whiskers
        flying cat
        • Nov 2003
        • 1950

        #4
        That was part of the arrangement. Mike was supposed to have veto on the artwork.
        The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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        • Whiskers
          flying cat
          • Nov 2003
          • 1950

          #5
          Did you parents have any trouble dealing with Chaosium? It would be very interesting to hear from them on any of this. Any chance you could interview them and post that here?
          The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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          • David Mosley
            Eternal Administrator
            • Jul 2004
            • 11823

            #6
            Re: Stormbringer artwork

            Originally posted by Random Goblin
            Mr. Moorcock seems to be pretty unhappy with a lot of the artwork in Chaosium's Elric games.
            I will say - from the stand point of an (dis)interested bystander/consumer - that I felt a lot of the artwork in the Games Workshop edition of Stormbringer :

            [broken link]

            was pretty p*ss-poor. Pete Knifton's artwork was particularly diabolical in my opinion (not just in Stormbringer, btw, but most of the stuff he produced for GW).

            Knifton wasn't the only offender among the artists who worked on that project, so I do honestly feel that GW's (then) usually pretty good Quality Controls (which featured in most of their own proprietary games) sadly fell widely short of the mark on that particular book. :(
            Last edited by Rothgo; 04-24-2010, 05:41 AM.
            _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
            _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
            _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
            _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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            • Random Goblin
              Nomad of the Time Streams
              • Jul 2005
              • 27

              #7
              Originally posted by Berry Sizemore
              Did you parents have any trouble dealing with Chaosium? It would be very interesting to hear from them on any of this. Any chance you could interview them and post that here?
              I don't remember. I'll ask.

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              • Typhoid_Mary
                Little Voice
                • Jun 2004
                • 541

                #8
                Any chance that you could post some scans?

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                • Random Goblin
                  Nomad of the Time Streams
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Nope; no scanner.

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                  • fireclown
                    Spirit of the Age
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Scans; etc., et al

                    Hey Man

                    What do you want scanned? For real.

                    -Fireclown

                    Originally posted by Typhoid_Mary
                    Any chance that you could post some scans?

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                      Chris Appel

                      #11
                      Chaosium artwork

                      FYI to everyone, I'm Chris Appel, illustrator and FORMER cover artist for some of the Chaosium books. I posted some old art from the Chaosium days in the gallery (Berry Sizemore indicated it might get moved, so you may have to search a bit.) There are some concept sketches as well as alternate versions of two covers that I did. These have been on my site in the past, but I'm cutting back on the older pieces displayed there. This seems like a better place for them.

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                      • VeteranOfThePsychicWars
                        Corsair of the Second Ether
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 98

                        #12
                        I liked the art inside the new Stormbringer game book.

                        I think it's terrible for Chaosium to not hand over the proper royalties or ask for approval from him though.

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                        • Mespheber
                          Guardian of the Grail
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 411

                          #13
                          I regret Frank Brunner's first edition illustrations, there were the best ever made...

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                          • runequester
                            Wanderer of the Mittel March
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 20

                            #14
                            Chaosium have always had somewhat mediocre artwork. Its funny that the GW version is mentioned as having worse art, since, in the case of Runequest, the GW version was generally better :)

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                            • Eldren Rogue
                              Wanderer of the Mittel March
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 18

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mespheber
                              first edition illustrations, there were the best ever made...
                              No argument there, the first edition had some stunning artwork, the following editions suffered by way of contrast, and some things were just inaccurate. (The pic of Gaynor comes to mind... which is a guy with an open face helm and a normal, human looking face. Looks like they just grabbed a human warrior type at random for the pic.)

                              The old AD&D Deities and Demigods which included the Elric and Cthulu sections also had what I thought were some great renditions of the characters.

                              Sorry to hear that Chaosium is jerking Michael. Too bad... I like their materials. Clearly they have been having financial issues for awhile, though that's no justification.

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