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  • #31
    I'd be surprised if the first two were other than wikivandalism. Edit history is hardly convincing. The latter two? No idea, as I never did read the lists all that closely.

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    • #32
      Not ringing any bells here either, J-Sun. I'm inclined to think they're not genuine.
      You see, it's... it's no good, Montag. We've all got to be alike. The only way to be happy is for everyone to be made equal.

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      • #33
        I went for Dietrich as I liked the name.

        Where it was a he or a she - I don't know, although, rather taken with a character working as 'Reality cop' in 30s'/40s Hollywood keeping the 'planes' separate, but starting to read too much like a Jasper Fford novel.
        Papa was a Rolling Stone......

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        • #34
          I think Artos the Celt may be the man on the yellow horse and both of them are the legendary King Arthur. The reason being, that in the Corum novels, Jhary-a-Conel tells Corum the following telling piece of information:
          Which itself suggests a great deal more. What more it seems to suggest, is the following:
          If we take all that as direct evidence, it reveals something even more extraordinary:
          As to who Jhary might have been while in service to Arthur, I suspect he was:
          Since that was Arhur's most loyal companion in his many adventures. That would explain why he would've been considered something of a rogue in that time period. Only that knight of the Round Table ever had that sort of a reputation, other than Gawain.

          So, technically, to learn all about this incarnation of the Eternal Champion one merely needs to read *any* good chronicle of the life of King Arthur. Mallory's Le Morte D'Arthur is, in my humble opinion, the absolute best chronicle of the life of King Arthur you can get, but I suppose Mists of Avalon will do if you're into modern takes on the mythos. So, there it is. I created an Arthurian game module for Neverwinter Nights called "Knights of the Holy Grail" as a remake of the old computer game "Conquests of Camelot". My version draws heavily from Malory and other sources, so I suppose you could say I'm something of an Arthurian enthusiest, amongst other things. (By the way, if you'd like to play it, here's the link to its' download page. You do need the Neverwinter Nights game first, though. http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view...Detail&id=4929)
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Prince_of_PanTang View Post
            As to who Jhary might have been while in service to Arthur, I suspect he was:
            Since that was Arhur's most loyal companion in his many adventures. That would explain why he would've been considered something of a rogue in that time period. Only that knight of the Round Table ever had that sort of a reputation, other than Gawain.

            Oh, and I should make a recommendation for Henry Treece's quartet of Albion novels - The Dark Island, The Great Captains, The Golden Strangers, Red Queen White Queen (particularly The Great Captains, which is "the story of 'King' Arthur, as I think it might have happened,") - not least because the Savoy paperback editions - sadly OOP - feature Introductions by Mike and illustrations by James Cawthorn.
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            _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
            _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
            _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
            _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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            • #36
              The Once and Future King by T. H. White is a wonderful version of the Arthurian legend. Don't know how faithful it is to some of the other tellings, though.
              You see, it's... it's no good, Montag. We've all got to be alike. The only way to be happy is for everyone to be made equal.

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              • #37
                The Warlord Chronicles (Winter King, Enemy of God and Excalibur) by Bernard Cornwell are also an excellent take on the Arthurian legend for anyone wanting the nitty-gritty of what might have gone on!
                And perhaps Galahad is the progenitor of the von Bek family? You never know, after all, he was the only one able to get hold of the Greal!

                I wouldn't mind learning more about Cremm Croich (who I'm not convinced is our Corum, as well as the original Erekosё before he re-incarnated at the start of The Eternal Champion, along with Black-Erekosё from The Vanishing Tower (who almost gives Corum and Elric another name to call him by...)
                Amid Chaos, Order arises; but even in Order there is Chaos.

                Understands now that Corum did have a happy ending after all!

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                • #38
                  I want to see a story about Werther De Goethe's hero, Eric of Marylebone.
                  Lord Warshaw the Unknown

                  "Except in dreams, you're never really free." Warren Zevon, Desperados Under the Eaves.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Max von Bek View Post
                    The Warlord Chronicles (Winter King, Enemy of God and Excalibur) by Bernard Cornwell are also an excellent take on the Arthurian legend for anyone wanting the nitty-gritty of what might have gone on!
                    I enjoyed that trilogy too, thought it was good depiction of the period. I liked the ending not prettified. The shield arrow/wedge always reminds of going to see Alfred the Great film with my Dad at the cinema in London.
                    Papa was a Rolling Stone......

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                    • #40
                      I have to agree with what Bevan wrote in an earlier posting:

                      The Man on the Yellow Horse, most tragic of the Eternal Champions. He jilted the sorceress Shayreen for the innocent princess Cynda, and in retribution Shayreen called forth the power of the lords of Chaos and transformed Cynda into the Yellow Horse. Now the Man rides Cynda through the multiverse as he hunts for a cure. Chaos, in its whim, granted Cynda the ability to run between realities and to be deadly in combat, and thus the Man on the Yellow Horse is the only incarnation of the Eternal Champion in which his Lover, his Companion, and his Weapon are all the same entity.
                      It would be a wonderful piece to have this tragic Eternal Champion make an appearance in another book, just to tie-in some ancient event. I loved how Eternal Champion "travellers" could sometimes make guest appearances in a story when the planets and spheres were all in conjunction. So, this is my vote--for The Man on the Yellow Horse.

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                      • #41
                        It's nice to see TmotYH* doing so well. It was rereading the bit about him that inspired this poll.

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                        You see, it's... it's no good, Montag. We've all got to be alike. The only way to be happy is for everyone to be made equal.

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                        • #42
                          So... just because a guy has a yellow horse, you all want to hear his story?

                          Did you know that Brian has a... blue horse? Blue, I say! With lime green stripes! Why, you'd hardly notice that yellow horse if Brian's horse was around.

                          Boy, the adventures they had together... but I guess you'll never know, will you?
                          “The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.” - Albert Einstein

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                          • #43
                            I'd like to scream: All of them.
                            But I chose Dietrich. (My gut feeling tells me that he's Dietrich von Bern. If that's true his companion would be Hildebrand. That would be awesome.)
                            But Ulysses would be cool as well. Or that pseudo-Corum on the yellow horse.
                            I think it would be great to hear the story of a character that seems familiar but isn't.

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                            • #44
                              Traven sounds good, a J.G. Ballard crossover perhaps?
                              Mwana wa simba ni simba

                              The child of a lion is also a lion - Swahili Wisdom

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                              • #45
                                Ulysses. One of my favourite mythic heroes, and I'd love to read Michael's take on him.

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