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  • Elric Movie Music symphonic/vocal.

    I was wondering about what type of composer would work for the Elric Movie, Classical or Film composer. And also what type of tone the music would have.

    I also wonder what type of classical music Mike likes best if he does like such music.

    I Myself like some of Wagners symphonic works. But i dont like his operas or Maestersingers. Not only because of the content
    but because of the music and the opera itself.

    Tannhauser is a favourite for me anyway, despite the Character of the composer.

    So go find some samples on the web to link here. So we can judge and so on.

    Happy hunting!

  • #2
    Hope this isn't directed at Michael Moorcock directly, if it is then I apologize. It didn't seem to be since you asked for a links (can't imagine anyone asking MM to find links for them :lol: )

    I posted this before, so I will do it here. :D

    Originally posted by VonWeiner
    What do you think of Hildegard von Bingen? I have posted about her on other threads but since this is also about the music I will be her advocate here as well.

    A sample (performed by Anonymous4):
    http://www.harmoniamundi.com/music3/907200.mp3

    Moorcock agrees with me on vonBingen (maybe not as strongly, but he likes it). In the thread:
    [broken link]

    A couple of pieces I mentioned come from the Feast for St. Ursula: 11,000 Virgins (Anonymous 4) which I think would be great in a fantasy setting. Namely, Sequence: O Ecclesia and/or Brief Responsory: Mirabilis Deus
    Here's a link to begining of that thread:
    [broken link]

    It is 'old' 12th century stuff and very good. Your thougths?
    I love her music. :D

    The above quote came from this thread:
    [broken link]
    Last edited by Rothgo; 04-21-2010, 03:09 PM.
    When they had advanced together to meet on common
    ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
    and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
    each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
    mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
    killing, and the ground ran with blood.

    Homer, The Illiad

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    • #3
      Nah it was directed at both you guys and MM..

      It would help me if there were some more samples of her music.

      I for one hand think it sounds alot like 12th century church music. Which is fine. But i think it needs more people singing in the choir. Preferbly with also a boys choire.

      Have u heard some of pendericki's older stuff. I'm trying to get a hold of his 'Magnificat Passacaglia' which demonstrates a more darker tone for just those moments.

      Well here's a demo of some of his darker notes.. And this is a x-mas symphonie :? :
      http://www.penderecki.de/_resources/64231f81ff7.mp3

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      • #4
        I have heard of him. Very good choice. I like the selection you have in your post. Of course, I gathered a few links with some more of Penderecki and VonBingen.

        Penderecki's:
        From - http://www.penderecki.de/index.html
        http://www.penderecki.de/_resources/a4b7d5e6a04.mp3
        http://www.penderecki.de/_resources/3877f5a3ab9.mp3
        http://www.schott-online.com/12publi...7b2dabfae2.mp3

        From walmart.com 30 second samples
        Penderecki page at WalMart.com (This is a link)

        http://music.walmart.com/m/006/85/73....01.01.001.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/006/85/73....01.01.002.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/006/85/73....01.01.004.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/006/85/73....01.01.008.mp3

        VonBingen at Walmart: VonBingen page at WalMart.com (This is a link)

        More 30 second samples:
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.014.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.001.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.002.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.003.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.004.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.009.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.006.mp3
        http://music.walmart.com/m/000/13/71....01.01.008.mp3

        Anyway, Theocrat, I like your idea. Penderecki has some really good music and you hit the nail on the head with your suggestion. Still looking for the peice you mentioned. I'll keep digging.

        I will say this about WalMart, they are getting smart about the whole music thing. You can download songs from there for $0.88 a piece. They have tons. I just bought the Blade Runner soundtrack from there the other day (the site not the store, the cd not the download) and noticed thier music service. Smarter than the record companies!

        (heh VonBingen at Walmart, why does that make me smile...)
        When they had advanced together to meet on common
        ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
        and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
        each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
        mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
        killing, and the ground ran with blood.

        Homer, The Illiad

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        • #5
          Yeah... I found his work when watching the old Heavy Metal movie. I have the version where the "Neverwhere Land" animation is present at the end to show what was cut out of the original cut before release.
          Penderecki's piece i mentioned is present as background music.

          And i guess this 'type of style' could be present in the more anguished or gloomy parts of the film. More as an ambient feature i guess?
          To emphesize a dark emotion aswell as a critical moment.

          Thanks for the samples! :D

          I thought R. Wagner worked really well for Excalibur. And symphonies work great in feature film as was perhaps R. Wagners intention with his "Gezmant Kأ¼nstwerk" (Spelling?). :) Though i really dont think a Wagnerian ELRIC Motif would fit the movie *LOL*. Too dreamy for that..

          As a sidenote! I really didn't like the LOTR adventurous theme in the movie. It sounded too flat and intellectually uninspiring, just too plain and easy might be the word. Though some stuff did work.

          Well i'll keep looking for more symphonic music as we perhaps got the vocal stuff sorted out?.. I gotta do the dishes :(

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Theocrat
            . I gotta do the dishes :(
            :lol:
            That last sentence brings us back to our mundane existence eh?
            Ha! Well, I know the feeling. I just had to feed my daughter pancakes! (perhaps they were The Pancakes of DOOM!) :lol:
            When they had advanced together to meet on common
            ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
            and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
            each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
            mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
            killing, and the ground ran with blood.

            Homer, The Illiad

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            • #7
              Hildegard Von Bingen has a beautiful voice. In my opinion her vocals would also fit into The Lord of the Rings. Her voice could give the feel of elves singing about dark and terrible things.

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              • #8
                *sobs* please no classical. I dont have a working sound card on my PC right now (too lazy to trouble shoot it and reload the drivers at the very least) to hear any samples but just the bit of that kind of music I do know gives me the shivers in a bad way when I think of it matched to a movie about Elric. That’s like in Wendy Pini’s Law and Chaos book she gives references to different pieces to be played in different scenes and it just killed it. That archaic music doesn’t belong in a movie like this IMO.

                Id love to hear morbid, dark modern instrumentals in the movie. Tense, emotional instrumentals with instruments ranging from violin to a Gibson Les Paul being tortured. No predominant vocals except maybe for a song or two.

                Liberia Me (Interview with the Vampire (The vocals in that song are just right IMO.)) is an interesting piece. I could see a piece like that (or that piece) playing in the background say in a dark gripping flashback showing Elrics mother dying as she births him.

                But IMO, put classical music to this movie and it will kill it.
                Ultra Magnus to Sandstorm. \"I\'ve never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy. . . Alright, give me the bomb.\"

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                • #9
                  Starscream, it depens on what you view of classical music is. For example some people may describe Evenascence as a rock band who uses classical sounds. If you use a wide range of instruments you can make sounds that convey a wide range of emeotion such as terror, fear, chaos, despair, sadness, beauty, ect.

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                  • #10
                    vonBingen's work is gregorian chant. She was a nun who lived in the 12th century and wrote mostly vocal pieces (if not all vocal - not sure). Her work is very good and doesn't sound like most classical music (like Bach, Mozart, Verdi etc...).

                    Penderecki is a modern composer whose music is very different. Some is dark and strange sounding, some are very new age sounding, some are vocal, some instrumental, some both. I wish you had a good sound card Starscream to hear some of it. It is nowhere near the "classical" that most people think of.

                    Penderecki's music is really amazing.
                    When they had advanced together to meet on common
                    ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
                    and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
                    each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
                    mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
                    killing, and the ground ran with blood.

                    Homer, The Illiad

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                    • #11
                      vonBingen's work is gothic chant. She was a nun who lived in the 12th century and wrote mostly vocal pieces (if not all vocal - not sure). Her work is very good and doesn't sound like most classical music (like Bach, Mozart, Verdi etc...).

                      Was she singing in the Gothic language? Also weren't the Gothics gone by the 12th century?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Galadriel
                        vonBingen's work is gothic chant. She was a nun who lived in the 12th century and wrote mostly vocal pieces (if not all vocal - not sure). Her work is very good and doesn't sound like most classical music (like Bach, Mozart, Verdi etc...).

                        Was she singing in the Gothic language? Also weren't the Gothics gone by the 12th century?
                        Sry I meant gregorian chant. I was distracted while posting. DOH! Let me edit. :oops:

                        I think most of her work is in Latin
                        When they had advanced together to meet on common
                        ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
                        and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
                        each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
                        mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
                        killing, and the ground ran with blood.

                        Homer, The Illiad

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                        • #13
                          Thanks, for the reply. I do wish there were songs in the Gothic language that I could listen to. :( From what I heard from the music clips I like VonBingen's and Penderecki's music.

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