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  • McTalbayne
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    Man, what'd Jude Law ever do to you?

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  • Yisselda
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    Jude Law sucks. He looks like a poisonedd rabbit and he cant act. Hes the most unoutstanding acter(snigger snigger ha ha)ever, His chin is so undershot its a wonder he can chew. Some points, Please dont give elric or anyone that tragic hairstyle on the maps that one with the too far back fringe that barely covers his forehead and shoulder lengh rest. And no he man styling either. And no overdoing and adding the comedy so the story suffers like with the ents in lotrt2t. And please for goodness sakes keep rubbish music out like blue or the soppy stuff.The music should be rock dance and insrumental.It should be thouraghly modern but accurate. 8)

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Well, it's not the only reason for wanting books to be made into a film, to be honest, or I could have sold the Elric stories years ago. I've turned down some very good offers. Chris Weitz was telling me that people had been surprised I'd sold them the film rights because it was 'well known that Moorcock never sells film rights'. I really liked what the Weitz brothers had to say and liked the seriousness with which they approached the idea. Also we are all agreed we want to write movies that while complementing the books are not slavish versions of the books. This gives me a chance to rewrite the sequence as I might have written it if I'd thought about it for thirty years, rather than written it over thirty years!
    If anyone can find (I can't) the USA Today site that talks about 'movie successors' to LOTR, they'll note that Christ Weitz is saying that he sees the Elric stories in relation to LOTR the way The Matrix is to Star Wars -- i.e. they are more 'thoughtful' in some ways, though still with plenty of action, marvels, adventures and so on.
    If anyone finds it on the web, let me know. If not, we'll try to post the bones of the USA Today story here.
    I am having input into the Elric movie and have an Associate Producer credit, since the Weitz brothers want to make the movie (s) with me
    involved and I'm happy to be involved for reasons given. Anyone who has seen the film version of The Final Programme or the movie I wrote with Jim Cawthorn (whose Elric logo I note you're using -- good isn't it?)
    The Land That Time Forgot will understand why I've been hesitant to have my work turned into movies. After FP I almost stopped working!
    The films have to make me excited and happy, too, or they just aren't worth making. That's not everyone's view, I know. But it is mine.
    I want Elric on screen to be better than the books!! That's the pleasure I get from it. And life for me is more about pleasure and conscience than it is about money and fame....
    :D

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  • krunky
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    Why bother?

    Hey, movies can be fun. No doubt about that.

    Movies are fun to watch. To think about. To argue over. Soundtracks can be cool too. Of course, you want your movie tie-in lunchbox...

    But Mr. M has already succeeded where it counts many times over -- he has written at least several very good novels which adorn many of our shelves. Am I right?

    The only reason to want to get your book made into a movie is more money, although interest in the film can sometimes lead to more interest in the source material (e.g. the books). I'm not knocking it, I'm just recognizing it for what it is.

    In essence, I don't see getting one's novel made into a film the goal of a proper author. Should a film get made, that's just icing on the cake. The real goal is met once the author and reader have connected via the written word.

    I don't know what Mr. M might say on the subject, but I think everyone concerned are best served when everybody well understands their respective roles. An author writes novels, he doesn't make movies -- that's the job of other kinds of creative people.

    I'm not saying there can't be overlap. And I'm not saying that the icing can't be nice. I just hate to think that we aren't respecting the written word as an end to itself.

    And you know how it is, the book is always better than the movie because you, the reader, have to help the author in the creative process with the cinema of your own mind. That's why most novels made into films suck -- it's just someone else's idea of what the novel is...

    So while Mr. M apparently has some creative imput and say in the finished product, there are many other hands on the project at the same time. Financial backers not the least of those hands.

    Anyway, a novel can be successful on its own terms as a novel; regardless of it's movie status. That's my main point.

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  • Erekose
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    Movie

    As my first post on your site and a long time reader and fan I must express my joy in hearing of the possibility of an Elric movie.

    The cinematic tools needed to accurately render the Multiverse on film are now available. I dearly hope that an accurate and respectful film rendition of the Elric saga can make it to the screen.

    If I may ask, in your opinion has the success of the LoTR series made it easier for an author of substantial works of science fiction/ fantasy to bring his works to the studios on his own terms?
    I imagine the eyes and ears of hollywood are now more finely tuned to the possibilites of great fantasy literature turned film; this in marked contrast to the endless parade of post-Conan flops of the eighties.

    Regards,
    -M

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Just a quick note. Nobody seems to have spotted the piece in USA today
    for Tuesday (Jan 20) called 'More of the Rings magic' which discussed upcoming fantasy movies in the wake of LOTR. The article discussed the Lemony Snicket, Artemis Fowl, Dark Materials and Narnia children's books being filmed and also The Elric Saga, which appears to be the only adult movie currently in the works.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    What sets Michael's characters and the Saga apart from others, in my opinion, in the fantasy genre is that the characters are well developed and the Elric saga is driven by the characters and not by the setting or world that the characters are in. Tolkien's strength and focus in LOTR is making an entire world of Middle Earth, developing histories, cultures and languages as where Michael writes from the standpoint of strong character definition and interaction being the central focus of the Saga.
    I agree with this, it's kind of the trademark of MM's literature; his stories are narrated speedily but with great relish and they're very intense as a result. The lack of dawdling was highly exhilarating when I first started the Elric saga, what with me being quite into multi-book tomes like Robert Jordan's collosal Wheel of Time Series (ten books and counting, averaging 600-1000 pages each!).

    Being on the second book of Corum right now (that kerazy Lake of Voices, eh?) I'm experiencing a similar headrush. I hope this translates well to the big screen, though it occurs to me that when the story is so focused, very little can be cut in the interest of time without altering the story.



    Saw A Knight's Tale at last. I didn't really see the raucous character of Chaucer as Elric; is there something else that inspired the choice of Bettany? Sewell made a great villain; I wouldn't be totally unhappy if he landed Yyrkoon, but I stand by him as Elric.

    Re. Jeremy Irons: Good actor, but the albino moorlock looked rather camp I thought.
    Re. Orlando Bloom: Don't think he could do brooding, it'd come off as sulky I feel. He just hasn't got the face for it.
    Re. Rackhir: Maybe Daniel Day Lewis, wearing his hair as he did in Last of the Mohicans?

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  • kard
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    yeah the sound of stormbringer will be important. i would suggest a terrible sound, like the scrathing of nails on the chalkboard! with lots of reverb of course... that will teatch em not to anger the blade, and the viewer make wish to have bought the earplugs at the cinema entrance.
    :D

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  • byaself
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    What sets Michael's characters and the Saga apart from others, in my opinion, in the fantasy genre is that the characters are well developed and the Elric saga is driven by the characters and not by the setting or world that the characters are in. Tolkien's strength and focus in LOTR is making an entire world of Middle Earth, developing histories, cultures and languages as where Michael writes from the standpoint of strong character definition and interaction being the central focus of the Saga. An emphasis should be placed on real actors and real human actions. The focus should be on the characters and not how cool the CGI's can be. The effects should compliment the characters and the storyline but not be the central focus of the film saga. I believe Berry hits the nail right on the head with his comments. I have a similar view of the films he mentioned and how dated they look today. The Elric Saga should look as close to timeless as possible because after all it is the multiverse we are talking about now isn't it?

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  • Whiskers
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    Originally posted by Sparhawk
    I think the films should definately be live-action as it people tend to get more involved and I think it would look so much better that way.
    I tend to agree with this statement.

    When I was a kid and finally saw Star Wars I was duly impressed. When I saw Star Wars recently, I couldn't believe how cheesy the SE were and I thought, ah, those were the 70's. The first time I saw Tron I was duly impressed. When I saw Tron recently, I couldn't believe how dated the CG looked and I thought, ah, those were the 80's. Terminator II was an event beyond all others, but a recent viewing had me thinking, ah, those were the 90's, give them a break.

    So here we are in 200x and we have Matrix and LOTR. The first Matrix was dark and filled with some clean CG but it didn't help the Matrix 2 and 3. Both were destroyed by bad storytelling and awful acting. LOTR broke through with a Jar Jar, er, Gollum. I wonder what Gollum will look like in 10 years. Not much worse than he does today? :lol:

    My opinion is that CG and classic animation always look dated eventually and much sooner than a well acted film. Think Heavy Metal. Even a well acted, B&W period film holds up to being dated better than a cartoon does. Consider The Seven Samurai.

    I would expect to see CG dragons, cityscapes, seascapes, human bodies (Toby McGuire's Spiderman CG body in numerous scenes), chaos creature bodies, ships in battle, Stormbringer's soul sucking, Yrkoon and Elric's elemental friends and other magic making and I suspect the list goes on.

    I agree with others who have said something akin to, "Don't let it turn out like the Dungeons and Dragon movie!" A CG Elric that would cause the "Jar Jar Effect" would be an Elric movie I couldn't enjoy.

    SE = Special Effects
    CG = Computer Graphics
    Jar Jar = CG creature in the 4th Star Wars movie (Phantom Menace)
    Jar Jar Effect = The state of rage a viewer experiences that will cause them to throw a tub of popcorn at the screen for having been cheated out of $13 ($8 for admission and $5 for the popcorn).

    Edit: Hey, I know we don't get a killer movie without CG.

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  • Hawkmoon
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    Re: Jeremy Irons(sp?)

    Originally posted by VonWeiner
    I just came across a pic of Jeremy Iroms from the Time Machine and he almost looks the part of Elric.


    What do you think?

    http://www.jeremy-irons.com/news/arc...memachine.html
    I don't agree with you. To me it fits more a TV adaptation of "Legacy of Kain" (IMO Kain's characters with their appearance and their soul stealing abilities are not far from an Elric rip off) but not for Elric that I've always imagined THIN, and not so "UGLY" (sorry mr Irons). I think he got some relationships with ladies that did also like something else than just his (dark) charisma.??? That's my own opinion of course. I'm curious about what you guyz think. ps: I also see Elric more young, not that OLD. (sorry for a second time mr Irons)

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  • VonWeiner
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    Jeremy Irons(sp?)

    I just came across a pic of Jeremy Iroms from the Time Machine and he almost looks the part of Elric.


    What do you think?

    http://www.jeremy-irons.com/news/arc...memachine.html

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  • legion505
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    another question, what about rahkir?
    who would play the red archer priest of phum?
    i think thas how its spelt?

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    I think the films should definately be live-action as it people tend to get more involved and I think it would look so much better that way.

    Regarding this whole unknown actor thing I don't really have problems with the bigger stars. There are certain individuals I only see as "Ahnuldt" or "Murray", but I don't think any of them will be in the running (shame though, I was rather hoping for a Bill Murray Elric <sigh>).

    Rufus Sewell, as I mentioned before is not a big name as such so he fulfills that criteria.

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  • VonWeiner
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    I hope...

    that Elric in the movie is more along the lines of the Elric from the old cover art by Whelan.

    I love that look and Stormbringer is simply evil looking (as it should be!).

    I love the cover of Sailor on the Seas of Fate. Those sailors behind him look terrified - for good reason. And the cover from Stormbringer is great.

    I always loved the idea of the anti-hero. Elric is the ultimate one. :twisted:

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