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    Q. Is there a correct order to read Mike's novels in?

    A. No. The best order is really to just pick up whatever’s available and take it from there without worrying too much about a 'correct' order, which means you can basically ignore the rest of this thread. Readers come to Mike's novels from many different directions - fantasy, sf, 'literary', etc. even music - so trying to dictate a 'correct' order can seem a little pointless. Likewise, suggesting a new reader starts with Elric or Corum for instance may work for some, but others may prefer The Dancers at the End of Time, Mother London or The Chinese Agent as jumping on points - depending on their literary tastes.

    However, some readers like reading orders, and in the 1990s Mike, together with John Davey, drew up two alternative 'recommended' reading orders for the UK and US editions of the Eternal Champion omnibuses published by Orion/Millennium and White Wolf respectively. (See "EC Reading Orders" below). However, since these mainly only included Mike's sf and fantasy novels and omitted his literary novels, the Cornelius quartet, and other books, they are far from comprehensive.

    There are also significant differences between the two orders due to the manner the omnibuses were published in each country (i.e. the UK series starts with Von Bek while the US one begins with the more fantasy-flavoured The Eternal Champion omnibus). The post that immediately follows is an attempt to consolidate the two orders in such a way as to make sense of the differences. Although the US series was published after the UK one, where differences exist in the orders the UK series takes precedence. It also includes titles that didn't feature in either order or weren’t yet published.

    It is, of course, entirely unofficial.

    Notes:
    • Titles in BOLD CAPITALS indicate omnibus titles in the Orion or White Wolf series.
    • Titles in Bold Lower-case indicate novels or omnibuses not in the Orion or White Wolf series.
    • Titles in bold lower-case book-ended with apostrophes - i.e. 'Title' - indicate a series title.
    • * - Indicates a book in the US series but not in the UK series.
    • ¹ - Indicates titles not in either the UK or US series, but nonetheless important or significant within Mike's mythos. These have been placed where seems most suitable within the overall saga.
    • ss - Indicates a title is a short story/novella.
    • ° – Indicates a work not by Moorcock.
    • A number of Mike's novels have been published under more than one title; where this the case, alternative titles are included in parenthesis and preceded by 'aka'. These alternates are included for completeness.
    Last edited by David Mosley; 08-17-2007, 04:10 PM.
    _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
    _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
    _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
    _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

  • #2
    A Suggested Reading Order

    VON BEK
    ...The War Hound and the World's Pain
    ...The City in the Autumn Stars
    ...The Pleasure Garden of Felipe Sagittarius (ss)

    THE ETERNAL CHAMPION
    ...The Eternal Champion
    ...The Sundered Worlds* (aka The Blood-Red Game)
    ...Phoenix in Obsidian (aka The Silver Warriors)
    ...The Swords of Heaven, the Flowers of Hell¹ (graphic novel with Howard Chaykin) (Note: not included in any omnibuses)
    ...The Dragon in the Sword

    HAWKMOON (aka The History of the Runestaff)
    ...The Jewel in the Skull
    ...The Mad God's Amulet (aka Sorcerer’s Amulet)
    ...The Sword of the Dawn
    ...The Runestaff (aka The Secret of the Runestaff)

    CORUM (aka The Swords Trilogy/The Swords of Corum/CORUM: THE COMING OF CHAOS)
    ...The Knight of the Swords
    ...The Queen of the Swords
    ...The King of the Swords

    SAILING TO UTOPIA
    ...The Ice Schooner
    ...The Black Corridor
    ...The Distant Suns
    ...Flux (ss)

    A NOMAD OF THE TIMESTREAMS (aka The Nomad of Time)
    ...The War Lord of the Air (first uncensored version since 1971 US edition)
    ...The Land Leviathan
    ...The Steel Tsar (extensively rewritten from 1981 edition)

    Warrior of Mars* (aka KANE OF OLD MARS)
    ...City of the Beast* (aka Warriors of Mars)
    ...Lord of the Spiders* (aka Blades of Mars)
    ...Masters of the Pit* (aka Barbarians of Mars)

    THE DANCERS AT THE END OF TIME
    ...An Alien Heat
    ...The Hollow Lands
    ...The End of All Songs

    Elric: Making of a Sorcerer¹ (graphic novel with Walter Simonson)

    ELRIC OF MELNIBONة (aka ELRIC: SONG OF THE BLACK SWORD)
    ...Elric of Melniboné
    ...The Fortress of the Pearl
    ...Elric: The Return to Melniboné¹ (graphic story with Philippe Druillet) (Note: not included in any omnibuses)
    ...The Sailor on the Seas of Fate
    ..........Sailing to the Future (ss) (aka Voyage on a Dark Ship)
    ..........Sailing to the Present (ss) (aka The Lands Beyond the World)
    ..........Sailing to the Past (ss) (aka The Jade Man's Eyes)
    ...The Dreaming City (ss)
    ...While The Gods Laugh (ss)
    ...The Singing Citadel (ss)

    The Cornelius Quartet¹ (aka The Cornelius Chronicles) - Note: the following books may be read in any order.
    ...The Final Programme¹
    ...A Cure For Cancer¹
    ...The English Assassin¹
    ...The Condition of Muzak¹

    THE ROADS BETWEEN THE WORLDS*
    (New framing passages tie the following novels into the EC theme)

    ...The Wrecks of Time* (aka The Rituals of Infinity)
    ...The Winds of Limbo* (aka The Fireclown)
    ...The Shores of Death* (aka The Twilight Man) (revised)

    THE NEW NATURE OF THE CATASTROPHE
    (All short stories - '°' indicates not
    by Moorcock)

    ...The Peking Junction
    ...The Dehli Division
    ...The Tank Trapeze
    ...The Ash Circus°
    ...The Firmament Theorem°
    ...The Adventures of Jerry Cornelius (comic strip) (not in mass market paperback edition)
    ...The Last Hurrah of the Golden Horde°
    ...The Dodgem Decision (aka The Dodgem Division)
    ...The Nash Circuit°
    ...Lines of White on a Sullen Sea°
    ...The Anxiety in the Eyes of the Cricket°
    ...The End of the Cycle°
    ...The Nature of the Catastrophe
    ...The Sunset Perspective
    ...Sea Wolves
    ...Voortrekker
    ...The Flesh Circle°
    ...A Prayer to Men°
    ...Dead Singers
    ...The Swastika Set-Up
    ...The Longford Cup
    ...The Entropy Circuit
    ...Interlude: Miss Brunner and Jerry°
    ...The Repossession of Jerry Cornelius° (non-fiction)
    ...Niki Hoeky°
    ...Everything Blowing Up°
    ...The Entropy Tango (fragment)
    ...The Murderer's Song
    ...The Gangrene Collection
    ...The Roumanian Question
    ...Bruised Time°
    ...Jerry and Miss Brunner at the Beginning°
    ...All the Way Around Again (not in hardcover & trade paperback editions)
    ...Jerry Cornelius: A Reader's Guide° (non-fiction)

    THE PRINCE WITH THE SILVER HAND (aka The Chronicles of Corum)
    ...The Bull and the Spear
    ...The Oak and the Ram
    ...The Sword and the Stallion

    'Jerry Cornell/Nick Allard'
    ...The LSD Dossier¹ (as by 'Roger Harris' - Nick Allard novel only – available online)
    ...The Chinese Agent¹ (aka Somewhere In The Night - as by 'Bill Barclay')
    ...The Russian Intelligence¹ (aka Printer’s Devil - as by 'Bill Barclay')

    LEGENDS FROM THE END OF TIME
    ...Pale Roses (ss)
    ...White Stars (ss)
    ...Ancient Shadows (ss)
    ...Constant Fire (aka The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming/A Messiah at the End of Time)
    ...Elric at the End of Time (ss)

    Gloriana¹

    STORMBRINGER (aka ELRIC: THE STEALER OF SOULS)
    ...The Sleeping Sorceress (aka The Vanishing Tower)
    ...The Revenge of the Rose
    ...The Stealer of Souls (ss)
    ...Kings in Darkness (ss)
    ...The Caravan of Forgotten Dreams (ss) (aka The Flame Bringers)
    ...Stormbringer
    ..........Dead God's Homecoming (ss)
    ..........Black Sword's Brothers (ss)
    ..........Sad Giant's Shield (ss)
    ..........Doomed Lord's Passing (ss)

    A Cornelius Calendar¹
    ...The Adventures of Una Persson and Catherine Cornelius in the Twentieth Century¹
    ...The Entropy Tango¹
    ...Gold Diggers of 1977¹ (aka The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle)
    ...The Alchemist’s Question¹ (ss)

    'Karl Glogauer'
    ...Behold the Man¹
    ...Breakfast in the Ruins¹

    EARL AUBEC (aka EARL AUBEC AND OTHER STORIES)
    (All short stories)
    (See also: The Deep Fix/The Time Dweller/The Singing Citadel/Moorcock’s Book of Martyrs (aka Dying for Tomorrow)/My Experiences in the Third World War/Casablanca)
    ...Earl Aubec (aka Master of Chaos)
    ...Jesting with Chaos (aka The Last Enchantment)
    ...The Greater Conqueror
    ...Going Home
    ...Hanging the Fool (aka Wheel of Fortune)
    ...Consuming Passion
    ...Wolf
    ...Environment Problem
    ...The Opium General
    ...A Dead Singer
    ...The Lovebeast
    ...The Ruins
    ...The Golden Barge (novel)
    ...The Deep Fix
    ...The Real Life Mr Newman
    ...Goodbye, Miranda
    ...Islands
    ...Some Reminiscences of the Third World War
    ..........Casablanca
    ..........Going to Canada
    ..........Leaving Pasadena
    ..........Crossing Into Cambodia
    ...Mars
    ...The Frozen Cardinal
    ...Peace on Earth
    ...The Mountain
    ...The Time Dweller
    ...Escape from Evening
    ...Waiting for the End of Time...
    ...The Stone Thing
    ...The Last Call
    ...My Life
    ...The Museum of the Future
    ...To Rescue Tanelorn...

    The Lives and Times of Jerry Cornelius¹ (2003 edition)
    ..........The Spencer Inheritance¹ (ss)
    ..........The Camus Connection¹ (ss)
    ..........Cheering for the Rockets¹ (ss)
    ..........Firing the Cathedral¹ (ss)

    COUNT BRASS (aka The Chronicles of Castle Brass)
    ...Count Brass
    ...The Champion of Garathorm
    ...The Quest for Tanelorn

    'Second Ether'¹
    ...Blood¹
    ...Fabulous Harbours¹
    ...The War Among the Angels¹
    Michael Moorcock's Multiverse¹ (graphic novel with Walter Simonson, Mark Reeve & John Ridgway)

    'The Dreamquest Trilogy(aka The Elric Saga Part IV)
    ...The Dreamthief's Daughter¹
    ...The Skrayling Tree¹
    ...The White Wolf's Son¹

    Note: The final three trilogies- COUNT BRASS, 'Second Ether' and 'Dreamquest' - can all be regarded as alternative endings to the Eternal Champion saga and therefore can be read in any order, not just the one listed above.


    There are other novels and books which do not easily fit into any of the Eternal Champion reading orders, due to their subject matter. These are, in no particular order:

    'Between the Wars' (aka the 'Colonel Pyat Quartet')
    .......... Byzantium Endures
    .......... The Laughter of Carthage
    .......... Jerusalem Commands
    .......... The Vengeance of Rome

    The Brothel in Rosenstrasse
    Mother London
    King of the City
    Lunching with the Antichrist/London Bone (collection - all stories in the former are included in the latter but not vice versa.)
    Caribbean Crisis (with James Cawthorn) (available online)
    Sojan (collection)
    Tales from the Texas Woods (collection)
    Silverheart (with Storm Constantine)

    Non-fiction:
    Wizardry and Wild Romance (revised 2004)
    The Retreat From Liberty
    Letters from Hollywood

    Death is No Obstacle (with Colin Greenland)
    Last edited by David Mosley; 10-20-2007, 02:55 PM.
    _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
    _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
    _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
    _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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    • #3
      EC Reading Orders:

      'Official' UK Eternal Champion Series (published by Orion/Millennium):
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 1: Von Bek
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 2: The Eternal Champion
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 3: Hawkmoon
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 4: Corum
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 5: Sailing to Utopia
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 6: A Nomad of the Time Streams
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 7: The Dancers at the End of Time
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 8: Elric of Melniboné
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 9: The New Nature of The Catastrophe
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 10: The Prince with the Silver Hand
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 11: Legends from the End of Time
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 12: Stormbringer
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 13: Earl Aubec
      The Saga of the Eternal Champion Vol 14: Count Brass

      'Official' US Eternal Champion Series (published by White Wolf):
      The Eternal Champion Vol 1: The Eternal Champion
      The Eternal Champion Vol 2: Von Bek
      The Eternal Champion Vol 3: Hawkmoon
      The Eternal Champion Vol 4: A Nomad of the Time Streams
      The Eternal Champion Vol 5: Elric: Song of the Black Sword
      The Eternal Champion Vol 6: The Roads Between the Worlds
      The Eternal Champion Vol 7: Corum: The Coming of Chaos
      The Eternal Champion Vol 8: Sailing to Utopia
      The Eternal Champion Vol 9: Kane of Old Mars
      The Eternal Champion Vol 10: The Dancers at the End of Time
      The Eternal Champion Vol 11: Elric: The Stealer of Souls
      The Eternal Champion Vol 12: Corum: The Prince with the Silver Hand
      The Eternal Champion Vol 13: Legends from the End of Time
      The Eternal Champion Vol 14: Earl Aubec and other stories
      The Eternal Champion Vol 15: Count Brass
      Last edited by David Mosley; 08-17-2007, 11:34 AM.
      _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
      _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
      _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
      _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

      Comment


      • #4
        Chronological Publication Order

        Order is by year of original of publication rather than month, so is not precise order in every instance. The list does not generally include short stories but some novellas, published under separate covers, are included together with reprint details.

        Titles preceded by 'aka' indicate alternative titles of original novel.
        • Caribbean Crisis (as Desmond Reid) (1962) (digest) (Sexton Blake Library #501)

        • The Stealer of Souls (1963) Reprinted in The Weird of the White Wolf (1977) & The Bane of the Black Sword (1977)

        • Stormbringer (1965) Restored & revised in 1978

        • The Sundered Worlds (1965) aka The Blood Red Game (1970)

        • Warriors of Mars (as Edward P. Bradbury) (1965) aka City of the Beast (1970)

        • Blades of Mars (as Edward P. Bradbury) (1965) aka Lord of the Spiders (1971)

        • The Fireclown (1965) aka The Winds of Limbo (1969)

        • Barbarians of Mars (as Edward P. Bradbury) (1965) aka Masters of the Pit (1971)

        • The LSD Dossier (as Roger Harris) (1966) Note: Very rare

        • The Deep Fix (as James Colvin) (1966)

        • Somewhere in the Night (as Bill Barclay) (1966) Revised as The Chinese Agent (1969)

        • The Twilight Man (1966) aka The Shores of Death (1970)

        • Printer's Devil (as Bill Barclay) (1966) Revised as The Russian Intelligence (1980)

        • The Wrecks of Time (1967) aka The Rituals of Infinity (1971) Revised in 1971

        • The Jewel in the Skull (1967)

        • The Mad God's Amulet (1968) aka Sorcerer's Amulet

        • The Sword of the Dawn (1968)

        • The Final Programme (1968) 1st US Avon Books edition censored

        • Behold the Man (1969)

        • The Ice Schooner (1969) Revised in 1977 and 1985

        • The Runestaff (1969) aka The Secret of the Runestaff

        • The Time Dweller (1969) (collection) Reprints selected stories from The Deep Fix plus new stories.

        • The Black Corridor (1969)

        • The Singing Citadel (1970) Reprinted in The Weird of the White Wolf (1977) & The Bane of the Black Sword (1977)

        • The Eternal Champion (1970) Revised in 1976

        • The Chinese Agent (1970) Revised from Somewhere in the Night (1966)

        • Phoenix in Obsidian (1970) aka The Silver Warriors (1973)

        • Breakfast in the Ruins (1971)

        • The Sleeping Sorceress (1971) aka The Vanishing Tower (1977)

        • A Cure for Cancer (1971)

        • The Knight of the Swords (1971)

        • The Nature of the Catastrophe (1971) (anthology) Contains Jerry Cornelius stories by other authors as well as Moorcock

        • The Warlord of the Air (1971) Note: All US and UK editions feature censored text except for original Ace Books editions (1971 & 1973)

        • The Queen of the Swords (1971)

        • The King of the Swords (1971)

        • The English Assassin (1972)

        • Elric of Melniboné (1972) aka The Dreaming City (1972) (The Dreaming City edition features unauthorised revisions)

        • An Alien Heat (1972)

        • Count Brass (1973)

        • The Bull and the Spear (1973)

        • The Jade Man's Eyes (1973) (novella) Revised and retitled in The Sailor on the Seas of Fate (1976) as Sailing to the Past

        • Elric: The Return to Melniboné (1973) (graphic story with Philippe Druillet) Note: Very rare

        • The Champion of Garathorm (1973)

        • The Oak and the Ram (1973)

        • The Land Leviathan (1974)

        • The Sword and the Stallion (1974)

        • The Hollow Lands (1974)

        • The Quest for Tanelorn (1975)

        • The Distant Suns (with Phillip James) (1975)

        • Legends from the End of Time (1976) (collection)

        • Moorcock's Book of Martyrs (1976) (collection) aka Dying for Tomorrow

        • The Sailor on the Seas of Fate (1976)

        • The Lives and Times of Jerry Cornelius (1976) Revised in 1986 & 2003, each with different content. 1st US edition edited by publisher

        • The End of All Songs (1976)

        • The Adventures of Una Persson and Catherine Cornelius in the 20th Century (1976)

        • Sojan (1977) (collection) Revised as Sojan the Swordsman (2010)

        • The Condition of Muzak (1977)

        • The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming (1977) aka A Messiah at the End of Time (1977)

        • The Weird of the White Wolf (1977) Reprints stories from The Stealer of Souls (1963) and The Singing Citadel (1970)

        • The Bane of the Black Sword (1977) Reprints stories from The Singing Citadel (1970) & The Stealer of Souls (1963)

        • Stormbringer (1978) Restored & revised

        • Gloriana, or The Unfulfill'd Queen (1978) Revised in 1993

        • Epic Pooh (1978) (chapbook) (non-fiction) Reprinted in Wizardry and Wild Romance (1987)

        • The Real Life Mr. Newman (1979) (chapbook) Reprints story from The Deep Fix (1966)

        • The Golden Barge (1979) Originally written in 1958

        • The Swords of Heaven, the Flowers of Hell (1979) (graphic novel with Howard Chaykin)

        • The Russian Intelligence (1980) Revised from Printer's Devil (1966)

        • My Experiences in the Third World War (1980) (collection)

        • The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle (1980)

        • Byzantium Endures (1981) US edition censored

        • The Entropy Tango (1981)

        • The Steel Tsar (1981) Substantially revised in A Nomad of the Time-Streams omnibus (1993)

        • The War Hound and the World's Pain (1981)

        • The Brothel in Rosenstrasse (1982)

        • The Retreat from Liberty (1983) (chapbook) (non-fiction)

        • New Worlds: An Anthology (1983) (revised 2005) (anthology)

        • The Laughter of Carthage (1984)

        • Elric at the End of Time (1984) (collection)

        • The Opium General & Other Stories (1984)

        • The Dragon in the Sword (1986)

        • The City in the Autumn Stars (1986)

        • Letters from Hollywood (1986) (non-fiction)

        • Wizardry and Wild Romance (1987) Revised in 2004

        • Elric at the End of Time (1987) (with Rodney Matthews) (illustrated novella) Reprints Elric At The End of Time novella (1981)

        • Mother London (1988)

        • Casablanca (1989) (collection)

        • The Fortress of the Pearl (1989) Reprinted in Elric: In the Dream Realms (2009)

        • The Revenge of the Rose (1991) Reprinted in Elric: Swords and Roses (2010)

        • Death is No Obstacle (1992) (with Colin Greenland) (non-fiction)

        • Jerusalem Commands (1992)

        • The Adventure of the Dorset Street Lodger (1995) (novella) Reprinted and retitled in Tales from the Texas Woods (1997) Note: Privately printed, hence very, very rare

        • Blood, A Southern Fantasy (1995)

        • The Birds of the Moon: a Travellers Tale (1995) (chapbook) Reprinted in Fabulous Harbours (1995)

        • Fabulous Harbours (1995) (collection) Reprints The Birds of The Moon: a Travellers Tale (1995)

        • Lunching with the Antichrist (1995) (collection) Some content reprinted in London Bone (2001), other content previously reprinted in Earl Aubec (1993)

        • The War Amongst the Angels (1996)

        • Tales from the Texas Woods (1997) (collection) Reprints The Adventure of the Dorset Street Lodger (1995) as The Adventure of the Texans' Honour

        • Michael Moorcock's Multiverse (1999) (graphic novel with Walter Simonson, Mark Reeve & John Ridgeway)

        • King of the City (2000)

        • Silverheart (2000) (with Storm Constantine)

        • London Bone (2001) (collection) Reprints some content of Lunching with the Antichrist (1995) with new material

        • The Dreamthief's Daughter (2001)

        • Firing the Cathedral (2002) (novella) Reprinted in The Lives and Times of Jerry Cornelius (2003)

        • The Skrayling Tree (2003)

        • The Mystery of the Texas Twister (2004) (novella) Supplement to Argosy #1. Reprinted in The Metatemporal Detective (2007)

        • The White Wolf's Son (2005)

        • The Vengeance of Rome (2006)

        • Elric: The Making of a Sorcerer (2007) (graphic novel with Walter Simonson)

        • The Metatemporal Detective (2007) (collection) Reprints The Mystery of the Texas Twister (2004)

        • Elric: The Stealer of Souls (2008) (collection) Reprints The Stealer of Souls (1963) & Stormbringer (1978)

        • Elric: To Rescue Tanelorn... (2008) (collection) Reprints The Eternal Champion novella (1962), Phase One (1965), The Jade Man's Eyes (1973), Elric at the End of Time novella (1981) and sundry Elric short stories (1962-2006)

        • Elric: The Sleeping Sorceress (2008) (collection) Reprints The Sleeping Sorceress (1971) and Elric of Melniboné (1972)

        • Elric: Duke Elric (2009) (collection) Reprints The Sailor on the Seas of Fate (1976); first publication of script for 'Duke Elric' comic strip from Michael Moorcock's Multiverse (1999)

        • The Best of Michael Moorcock (2009) (collection) Reprints various short stories from 1965 to 2008

        • Elric: In the Dream Realms (2009) (collection) Reprints The Fortress of the Pearl (1989), first publication of script for Elric: The Making of a Sorcerer and sundry Elric-related fiction/non-fiction

        • Into the Media Web: Selected non-fiction, 1956-2006 (2010) (collection) Reprints selected non-fiction 1956 to 2006

        • Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles (2010)

        • The Sunday Books (Les Livres du dimanche) (2010) (illustrated book with Mervyn Peake)French text

        • Elric: Swords and Roses (2010) (collection)Reprints The Revenge of the Rose (1991), first publication of Stormbringer screenplay (first draft), reprints Black Petals novella (2008) and sundry Elric-related fiction/non-fiction including a new Reader's Guide by John Davey.

        • Modem Times 2.0 (2011) (collection) Reprints expanded Modem Times novella (2008) and 'My Londons' essay (2009), first publication of interview with Terry Bisson and a Bibliography.

        • The Whispering Swarm (2011?) In preparation
        Last edited by David Mosley; 02-14-2011, 06:40 PM. Reason: Contents of latest collections/books added
        _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
        _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
        _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
        _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

        Comment


        • #5
          Considering the new Elric omnibus editions...

          The order of the Elric stories, as presented in the new Del Rey editions, is chronological in order of publication, as I understand it. Is this order now considered a "preferred" order in which to read the Elric tales?

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          • #6
            David, once again, great lists! I had been wondering about the Second Ether books because I never read them. I didn't know they were another ending, thanks. I'm starting to get a good list of books that I need to buy.
            Once again, thanks for the offer of the book! If I had no way of getting a copy, I would take you up on it. You get a gold star in my book! I wont forget it.
            "The world is such-and-such or so-and-so only because we tell ourselves that that is the way it is. If we stop telling ourselves that the world is so-and-so, the world will stop being so-and-so." - don Juan

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            • #7
              Blackwood,

              I think you pays your money and takes your choice - I don't think there is a preferred order as such, now you can read them in internal chronological order or publication order. The first time I read them was in a chaotic order - the short story collections The Stealer of Souls and The Singing Citadel followed by Stormbringer, then The Sailor on the Seas of Fate, The Vanishing Tower finishing with Elric of Melnibone. The second time I read them was in internal chronological order - so it will be interesting to read them in publication order.

              In the Multiverse all orders are preferred orders.
              Statistically 6 out of 7 dwarfs are not happy.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blackwood Buzz View Post
                The order of the Elric stories, as presented in the new Del Rey editions, is chronological in order of publication, as I understand it. Is this order now considered a "preferred" order in which to read the Elric tales?
                My opinion - for what it's worth, and it's really not worth any more than yours - that that the Del Rey's are just "an" order which you can read the Elric stories in rather than a 'preferred' order.

                As Mike has explained elsewhere, what he's trying to do is give readers an alternative to the internal chronological order of the stories as well as providing supplementary material to give context to the original stories. There are certain stylistic reasons why reading the stories chronologically may not be the 'best' way to experience them, but they mainly concern the later Elric novels The Fortress of the Pearl and The Revenge of the Rose, which are quite different in 'tone' from the '60s and '70s stories.

                Here's Mike on the subject in 2005:

                Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
                There isn't any particular order you HAVE to read the books in, because I didn't write them in chronological order. They've been published in chronological order most recently, but you wouldn't have read them like that when they were originally appearing. It's best to begin with Elric of Melnibone (or even the current comic, which predates Elric of Melnibone) and end with Stormbringer, but what you do in between is entirely a matter of taste or circumstance.
                Effectively, as I see it, there are at least three ways to read the Elric stories:

                Chronological order (as per Orion/White Wolf editions)
                Publication order (as per Del Rey editions)
                The 'Traditional' order, namely:
                0. Elric: The Making of a Sorcerer
                1. Elric of Melniboné
                2. The Sailor on the Seas of Fate
                3. The Weird of the White Wolf
                4. The Sleeping Sorceress (aka The Vanishing Tower)
                5. The Bane of the Black Sword
                6. Stormbringer
                7. Elric at the End of Time
                A. The Fortress of the Pearl
                B. The Revenge of the Rose
                Of course, as with the EC saga at large, sometimes its best just to dive in with whatever's closest to hand and see where the Multiverse takes you.
                Last edited by David Mosley; 08-09-2011, 09:31 AM.
                _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by David Mosley View Post
                  Chronological Publication Order

                  Order is by year of original of publication rather than month, so is not precise order in every instance. The list does not generally include short stories but some novellas, published under separate covers, are included together with reprint details....
                  Hi David,

                  Great lists! I found this one particularly useful as I'm trying to put together a Chronological list by publication order too, as part of a little reading project I've started.
                  I could only find two mistakes: Breakfast in the Ruins was 1972 not '71, and the Matthews illustrated Elric at the End of Time didn't appear until 1987, whereas you have down as '84, same year as the collection.

                  Now all you need to do is add the short stories and the omnibuses...

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                  • #10
                    Just checked and my copy of 'Breakfast in the Ruins' is copyright 1971. First UK publication was in 1972. You're right about the copyright in the RM illustrated 'EATEOT', though, I checked that as well.
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                    • #11
                      Hi again David,

                      I've just found your excel document - extremely impressive in detail. Makes me wonder if the sources I used in my suggested corrections might be wrong - but they included the Wikiverse, so something on the site needs correcting either way! I also retract the bit about you needing to add the omnis - clearly you already had!

                      My own list is also in the form of an excel doc - the difference is that I'm doing the books AND the short stories (with a column listing their appearances in books) but with no emphasis on publication details other than year. At the moment I've stopped at 1993 because I realized I needed a new column to detail omnibus collections of novels, and I thought I'd try to get it all right up to 1993 and then cross that bridge! I'd love to share my list with you, and other Miscellanists, but I've no idea how to upload it as you did yours - can you explain in easy (i.e. non-techie) terms? (If not, don't worry..)

                      I also discovered that you've been engaged in a similar reading project to the one I'm just embarking on - reading all Mike's work in chronological order (only roughly in my case, as the project has evolved gradually over the past few of months - coinciding with my rediscovering my love of MM and discovering this site). I'm just enjoying the early 60s Elrics at the moment - and will have the first of the Del Rey books later this week. Their appearance has been a wonderful coincidence for my project - I'm hoping they'll really add some depth to it - though I'm probably going to get impatient waiting for the next one! Just out of interest - where are you up to now?

                      Cheers, JC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Governor of Rowe Island View Post
                        Just checked and my copy of 'Breakfast in the Ruins' is copyright 1971. First UK publication was in 1972. You're right about the copyright in the RM illustrated 'EATEOT', though, I checked that as well.
                        Thanks, Guv. I just checked my copy and you're right - however, every site I've found has no listed publication for 1971 - the first US publication is Random House in 1974, then Avon 1980 (my copy). It's a bit mysterious... ...especially as, to my knowledge, none of it was published as a short story before the novel, only an excerpt was published (as "An Apocalypse: Some Scenes from European Life") and then not until 1973.
                        Last edited by Jherek Cornelius; 03-02-2008, 05:01 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Hi Jherek, thanks for the comments. That's reminded me that I needed to update the list because recently discovered information (just by me, I don't suggest it wasn't already known ) has caused me to revise the publication order for some of the titles, particularly in the 1970s. So I've just done that.

                          Among the changes I've just made is to move the EatEoT collection down to 1981 and the RM novella up to 1987 as per your suggestion. Confusingly, the illustrated novella gives a copyright for RM's illustrations as 1981. I wonder if that means the illustrations were completed some years before they actually appeared in print. ISTR Mike saying he'd written the novella especially for RM to illustrate. That may be why I'd previously lumped the collection and novella together?

                          BITR clearly carries a 1971 copyright notice, even if the US hc didn't appear until 1972, which may be why I've placed it there. John Davey's A Reader's Guide (1992) also says 1972 for the pub. date however.

                          I suspect the Avon The Final Programme may come earlier than I've listed it, because it carries a March 1968 publication date. I just don't know in which months Lancer published Sorcerer's Amulet and Sword of the Dawn.

                          Originally I'd assumed that The End of All Songs had to come before Legends from the End of Time, but it clears from reading the stories that they occur after The Hollow Lands but before TEoAS because Jherek and Amelia are still lost in the Devonian.

                          To upload your own spreadsheet(s), create a new post and then scroll down to the "Additional Options" and click "Manage Attachments". You can't upload XLS (Excel) format files, but you can convert it into a ZIP file and upload it that way. The attachments interface should be fairly straight forward, but shout if you have problems.

                          A Short Story spreadsheet is obviously something we should make available if we can.

                          Any further notes and comments that enable us to get a more accurate publication order are always appreciated.
                          Last edited by David Mosley; 03-02-2008, 10:35 AM.
                          _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                          _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                          _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                          _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jherek Cornelius View Post
                            I also discovered that you've been engaged in a similar reading project to the one I'm just embarking on - reading all Mike's work in chronological order (only roughly in my case, as the project has evolved gradually over the past few of months - coinciding with my rediscovering my love of MM and discovering this site). I'm just enjoying the early 60s Elrics at the moment - and will have the first of the Del Rey books later this week. Their appearance has been a wonderful coincidence for my project - I'm hoping they'll really add some depth to it - though I'm probably going to get impatient waiting for the next one! Just out of interest - where are you up to now?
                            Forgot to answer this one.

                            I'm currently up to Legends at the End of Time (1976), although my original listing suggested I read The Sailor on the Seas of Fate after The Distant Suns, so I've backtracked slightly to get back on the right path (so to speak).

                            Like you, my 'order' has been a little rough. I started with re-reading the Hawkmoon tetralogy originally, then The Shores of Death (iirc) before reading The Stealer of Souls and Stormbringer before I thought about reading it all in order starting with Warriors of Mars (City of the Beast). I think after the Michael Kane trilogy I read The Sundered Worlds (The Blood Red Game) but I'm not sure now. After that I more or less got on the right track. I backtracked a couple of times as I got hold of earlier books I'd had to skip over previously (due to not having them), specifically Caribbean Crisis, The LSD Dossier and Printer's Devil.

                            I now feel I'm more or less 'doing it right'. What I think I gain from reading the books this way is seeing how Mike's cosmology originally developed. Of course, I have an advantage over the original readers of knowing where it ends up, so I read something and think "Ah ha! That's going to be significant in due course!", whereas the original reader wouldn't have had that foreknowledge.

                            Something I'm not doing is re-reading books that weren't revised when they were re-titled. So having read, say, Warriors of Mars I skipped City of the Beast when I got to 1971; ditto The Silver Warriors, The Winds of Limbo, etc. I will be reading revised books though in due course: The Eternal Champion (1977), The Ice Schooner (1978) and The Final Programme, A Cure for Cancer and The English Assassin (all 1979) when I get round to them. (Having already read the revised Stormbringer originally I might read the 'fix-up' novel edition instead when the time's right.)

                            I was posting reviews of my progress up until the end of last year, but I dropped the ball on that one. I should try and catch up with that. (It's just I'd rather read the next book than work out a review of the last one. )
                            Last edited by David Mosley; 03-02-2008, 10:36 AM.
                            _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                            _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                            _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                            _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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                            • #15
                              Hi David, Sorry I haven't replied sooner - I'm rather short on time having spent a lot of Sunday slacking off and instead adding the Omnibus column (I mentioned in one of my previous posts) to my Excel doc! I've had to ban myself from working on my chronology until the weekend as a result. !!!

                              Originally posted by David Mosley View Post
                              Among the changes I've just made is to move the EatEoT collection down to 1981 and the RM novella up to 1987 as per your suggestion. Confusingly, the illustrated novella gives a copyright for RM's illustrations as 1981. I wonder if that means the illustrations were completed some years before they actually appeared in print. ISTR Mike saying he'd written the novella especially for RM to illustrate. That may be why I'd previously lumped the collection and novella together?
                              It is confusing - I know EatEoT first appeared in Elsewhere (Ace, 1981) edited by Terri Windling & Mark Alan Arnold, but I can find no reference to RM illos (though apparently:
                              Every story contains a full-page B&W illustration by Terri Windling.
                              - that's from the ISFDB). Perhaps RM started the illos in 1981, but didn't finish them until nearer 1987?

                              Originally posted by David Mosley View Post
                              To upload your own spreadsheet(s), create a new post and then scroll down to the "Additional Options" and click "Manage Attachments". You can't upload XLS (Excel) format files, but you can convert it into a ZIP file and upload it that way. The attachments interface should be fairly straight forward, but shout if you have problems.

                              A Short Story spreadsheet is obviously something we should make available if we can.
                              Thanks for that. Now all I need to do is work out how to convert my excel doc into a zip file - I use a Mac (over 2 years now, never looked back..) and I can't seem to find an option or equivalent. I'm sure I just need to look harder...

                              I will definitely make it available as soon as I can - but it is a bit of a mess at the moment, given my additions to it - needs a bit more work, but not 'til Saturday...!

                              I think I better sign off now - I'll respond to your other post to me soon. Cheers, JC.

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