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Sabbath is Conan; Zeppelin is Lord of the Rings

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  • HawkLord
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    I'm just guessing here, but I don't think all Manowar songs are supposed to be taken seriously I mean "blow your speakers" and "fighting the world" you can agree with, but things like "demons whip" and the awfull voice piece "warriors prayer" I can't believe they're suppposed to be interpreted without a comic florish.
    I think most bands of that genre arent perhaps 100% serious. At least, I hope so!

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  • M-A_19
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    Originally posted by dead-air
    I'm fine with Zeppelin being Tolkein
    Hell I'm not!

    Zeppelin positively radiate originality, Tolkien owes too much to his influences

    Zepplin are better at being Tolkien than Tolkien anyway! Listen to the "the battle of Evermore", then read the bit in the third LOTR book its about, see who evokes the feeling best!!

    As to American thrash God Bless Anthrax, for hell, just being Anthrax. You know, when I think of them and Nina simone I kinda like the states ;)

    I'm just guessing here, but I don't think all Manowar songs are supposed to be taken seriously I mean "blow your speakers" and "fighting the world" you can agree with, but things like "demons whip" and the awfull voice piece "warriors prayer" I can't believe they're suppposed to be interpreted without a comic florish.

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  • Poetgrrl
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    agrees totally--Conan is very metal. all that long-haired, leather-and-spikes and weapons and machismo and tough chicks and all... *ssiiiigh*

    ManoWar doesn't count for me, though. They feel more like paraody. sorry, ManoWar fans....

    as an aside... the lead singer for Iron Maiden is a very brainy fella. he also had the long hair and the ehm... not tall stature... of Conan. Oh that Bruce. Anyway. One of his nicknames was Conan the Librarian...

    *make my heart beat* :twisted:

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  • Dead-Air
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    I don't know if that's true. Most "Black Metal", which is a particular sub-genre focused on Satanism and a lo-fi thrash aesthetic comes from those realms. American thrash has tended more towards "Death Metal" which attempts to be less image centered. Metallica rose out of that movement long ago now, and Man-o-War were at it even before them.

    Sepultura is a mighty powerful metal band from Brazil, and Voivod are Canadian!

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  • HawkLord
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    Originally posted by panopticon
    Originally posted by HawkLord
    Are Manowar from America?
    Oh yes, New York originally.
    Thought so. Most power metal is usually from Scandinavia and that.

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  • Groakes
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    So Slayer would be .... what? Karl Edward Wagner?

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  • Dead-Air
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    Yep, their original guitarist, Ross the Boss, was in the Dictators first!

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    Originally posted by HawkLord
    Are Manowar from America?
    Oh yes, New York originally.

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  • HawkLord
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    Are Manowar from America?

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    Hmm, Manowar are Conan!!

    Sabbath are more Mario Bava & Hammer Horror, to my imagination.

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  • Mikey_C
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    Originally posted by Dead-Air
    Well, Lovecraft and Tolkein both were guilty of a bit of Western/Euro-racism where Eastern culture, be it Arabic or Asian
    Understatement of the year - I recall HPL's disgust at the "vile asiatic hordes" on the NY subway. The good professor's racism was, of course, much more civilised....

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  • Dead-Air
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    Well, Lovecraft and Tolkein both were guilty of a bit of Western/Euro-racism where Eastern culture, be it Arabic or Asian, was often portrayed as dark and evil. That's probably where the scary flute music comes from. Zeppelin certainly picked up on this with their "The piper is calling you to join him" occultism.

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  • Mikey_C
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    That could have been a Nik Turner slipping through some inter-dimensional wormhole! Personally I'd like to get hold of a recording by Erich Zann....

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  • Dead-Air
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    HPL at least wrote a lot about eerie discordant flute music, so he might have actually been somewhat aware of the avante garde music of his day. Of course metal wasn't a listening option in the '30s.

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  • Mikey_C
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    Does anyone know what these authors actually preferred themselves? It sure as hell wasn't metal. The only musical project Tolkien was associated with that I'm aware of was an atrocious Flanders / Swann version of songs from LotR. I'm sure that HPL would have favoured the classics - but REH; Wagner seems like an appropriate choice - but who knows?

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