Time Theory

[Yisselda]

Heres a thorny subject. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK OF TIME THEORY?! Heres what i think. There is no such thing as past present and future just now. Past present and future are only used when relative to you. All this is is and always will be. Its just a matter of scales and planes. All are accsesable exept for certain cercumstances.

[Jerico]

Well,
all I have to add is that my watch stopped
recently, and I realized that I knew the
correct time only for two minutes a day!!!

[Michael Moorcock]

Space being a dimension of Time... :)

[DeeCrowSeer]

It would be interesting to see how our perception of time changed if someone removed all of the watches and clocks. Obviously we'd still have the sun to go by, but everything in between would be relative chaos. That might be fun for a while!

As a man who keeps a daily journal I do probably have a more established sense of "the past" than I might have without it, but I can't really prove that I wrote all of the things I vaguely remember writing... especially the bits that aren't funny. I'm sure they were someone's else's work.

To paraphrase Janis Joplin, if you've got something good today you'd better hold on and enjoy it as much as you can, and don't wait for tomorrow because tomorrow never comes.

D...

[Michael Moorcock]

I was up in Lapland without a watch for some time and that's one of the things that got me thinking about the nature of town, or at least our perception of it. I actually lost complete track of the days, after a while.
When I got back to 'civilisation' I had to buy a newspaper to check out the date.

[Michael Moorcock]

Well, not just the nature of town, of course, but also the nature of time!
:)

[Jerico]

I took college philosophy when I was
18 or 19 years old and I only got so much
out of it. I was young, and the teacher
was "unconventional" to say the least.
His name was Pidgeon, a short, bald, and rotund
man who spoke like Yoda, and the only clothes
he wore were these loose fitting, scrub-like
clothes-- non-collared tops, and bottoms with
drawstrings. Made of terri-cloth (sp?) or like
material. And sandals. He was the real Yoda,
or some kind of philosopher monk.
His definitions of space and time
(don't quote me on this, these are from my notes
and the accuracy of them are subject to debate)...

Space- n. the abscence of place/ quality/ trait; not a property of things.
The subjective condition of/ for sensibility of/ as other.

Time- The subjective condition of/ for sensibility of/ as self.

Take from that what you will. The dude spoke like Yoda. I dunno. I probably understood 35%-- at the most-- of what he was talking about!

:roll:

[krunky]

There's a Ballard short entitled "Chronopolis" - I think that one is about time and how it sort of rules our conduct. I haven't read it in years...

[kard]

what is time? if nobody asks me, i know; but were i desirous to explain to one that should ask me, then plainly i could not"

st. Augustine

[Doc]

Take from that what you will. The dude spoke like Yoda. I dunno. I probably understood 35%-- at the most-- of what he was talking about!

:roll:

If it makes you feel any better, Jer...

In my experience with those types, they only understand about 50% of what they say. :P

[Jerico]

:lol:

[RCraigRobinson]

Tomorrow ain't what it used to be...

I think time, or one might say timekeeping, is the attempt to standardize something that perhaps has sticky standards.

Past, present and future are all relative to individual experience. So the best way to consider time is without experience. When one dies, does time stop? Or does one die when time stops?

I think we must make the discernation between book time and time in general. If I say, I will meet you in four hours, that is fairly easy to measure and say, that is in our future. So it begs the distinction between Time as an idea and timekeeping as a device.

Nature reproduces itself in iterations of scale. There are so few linear things in nature. Look at clouds. Look at the human brain. You can look at an icicle and see an example of linearality. But once you look inside it, you see something antithitical. I don't just mean the economy of nature.
The brain is folded in upon itself to save space, like the intestine, blah blah blah, I mean in aesthetical sense.

I look at time the same way.

A tumbleweed blowing this way and that across the desert. That is time.
Or I should say, that is our relationship to time. Maybe even time's relationship to us.

Time is also a borish perodical I stopped reading about a decade ago.

[Michael Moorcock]

Scale is how I suggest the worlds of the multiverse are differentiated, rather than 'parallel worlds' or some other such model. That's why the Chaos Engineers go 'upscale' or 'downscale' when they sail between the worlds.

[Dead-Air]

My favorite Time Travel SF book is Now Wait For Last Year by Phillip K. Dick, which seems to have similar ideas to Michael's with regard to parallel futures. This particular book deals with the unravelling of those parallel futures as a drug experience and the ensuing chaos is just delicious.

[Jerico]

My take on space, time, and matter...

[broken link] :)