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Anyone hear of Jose Padilla?

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  • Anyone hear of Jose Padilla?

    This is a man accused of "terrorist activities" and jailed without charges or access to legal counsel. He is an American citizen who was defined as an "enemy combatant" under an old WWII era law. His case is disturbing to me. There have several cases like his. It reminds me of the old Soviet Union.

    Here are some links:

    http://www.economist.com/opinion/dis...ory_id=1622138

    http://www.law.yale.edu/outside/html...ls_article.htm

    http://www.cato.org/dailys/07-01-02.html

    http://www.yale.edu/yalelj/112/VladeckWEB.pdf

    These Patriot Acts (I & the upcoming II) are troubling in many ways. Osama Bin Laden said he would make sure Americans were no longer free. He may be right.
    When they had advanced together to meet on common
    ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
    and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
    each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
    mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
    killing, and the ground ran with blood.

    Homer, The Illiad

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    Oh and here's an article on the treatment of Iraqi's by the US. The part that has to do with this topic is in the middle of the article. It is about Iraqi prisoners held without charges. We are now making news at Amnesty International.

    http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE140062004

    I know I just saw a piece on 60 minutes about people detained in Iraq. The Brigadeer General in charge of the prisons first recieved the reporters cheerfully, until they started mentioning specific people who were being held and the fact that there were no charges that the military could find (contradicting everthing the General was saying to them). The reporters were then escorted out of the building with a hand in front of their cameras.

    Some of these people have been held for a long time. Anyway, I am sure many others here can find a lot more on the subject.
    When they had advanced together to meet on common
    ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
    and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
    each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
    mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
    killing, and the ground ran with blood.

    Homer, The Illiad

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    • #3
      Hey VW!

      Shut The Fuck Up! Some of us can still hear you...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by krunky
        Hey VW!

        Shut The Fuck Up! Some of us can still hear you...
        No way Mr. Man! You ain't keeping me down!

        Fight the Power!


        :P
        When they had advanced together to meet on common
        ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
        and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
        each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
        mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
        killing, and the ground ran with blood.

        Homer, The Illiad

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        • #5
          One key quote:

          "If the attorney general can simply announce that a citizen is an enemy of the state and use that accusation to hold him indefinitely, our Constitution is not worth the paper it is written on."

          Yup. That about sums it up...
          "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
          --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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          • #6
            Even I can agree with that. 8O

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            • #7
              That was me as "Guest", by the way.

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              • #8
                Heh. Bill, by adding that "Even" to your sentence, you make it sound like you're the Black Sheep here. But there are none. We're all just different shades of grey. :D

                Baa!
                "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
                --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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