Announcement

Collapse

Welcome to Moorcock's Miscellany

Dear reader,

Many people have given their valuable time to create a website for the pleasure of posing questions to Michael Moorcock, meeting people from around the world, and mining the site for information. Please follow one of the links above to learn more about the site.

Thank you,
Reinart der Fuchs
See more
See less

Open Letter To India

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    Originally posted by danskmacabre
    However, if you DO go on a show like that, you should be aware they're going to show any events or comments that are going to push up ratings for them,
    And if you are a celebrity, you should be doubly aware of this fact.

    Comment


    • #32
      Originally posted by danskmacabre
      However, if you DO go on a show like that, you should be aware they're going to show any events or comments that are going to push up ratings for them, which includes all the stuff that she apparently did.
      Quite so. And you don't even have to generalise... there have been eight series (or so) of BB, and every year someone says something absurdly ignorant or hateful and comes out saying "It's all in the editing... I was quoted out of context!" Happens every time, and they still seem shocked by it. Nevertheless, the producers can't edit words into people's mouths... they can fake reactions by using different shots of people, but even that couldn't be done during a live stream. So, really, if you say something phenomenally stupid in a TV studio, surrounded by cameras, you have to acknowledge that and apologise for it. Also, there's no escaping the fact that in the post-eviction interview Jo was just as surly and unapologetic as she had been in the house, and that was "live". She certainly doesn't deserve death threats though. She deserves to be called a "moron" on the street a couple of times, and refused entry to every Asian-owned business in the land, but not death threats.

      I was thinking over one of the clips they keep showing, and it struck me as odd that Jo and Danielle should have had a discussion about whether or not Indian or Chinese people "eat with their hands", because British people eat with their hands in pretty much every takeaway I can think of... chips, burgers, fried chicken and kebabs... then there are cakes, biscuits, crisps, sandwiches/wraps, garlic bread, etcetera. It seems a remarkably stupid discussion for them to have had, as young people in this country. Don't we all eat with our hands? Whether what they said was racist or not is a matter for the offended and the police, not me... either way, it was a very stupid thing to say.
      "That which does not kill us, makes us stranger." - Trevor Goodchild

      Comment


      • #33
        Originally posted by DeeCrowSeer
        Don't we all eat with our hands?
        I suspect Jade uses a trough, actually.
        _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
        _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
        _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
        _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

        Comment


        • #34
          In france, we have reality shows ....

          Things as BB less because of lack of audience.

          But i remeber a show where the pictures were built to give the feeling that a married man had laid with a woman.

          After the show, the wife was mocked and it finished by a divorce.

          Afrench Tv show each week is about the way the TV builds reality, even and mainly in realityshows. For instance in a show, the sequence was decided before etc ...

          Theses shows are traps for people in and for people watching according scenarios made to have audience.

          Comment


          • #35
            Miss Piggy

            Originally posted by David Mosley
            I suspect Jade uses a trough, actually.
            David, you hit the nail right on the head!! They should have put one in the programme to make her feel at home. I 've never watched the programme, never will but I heard today she has gone into Rehab?? for the stress she is under? Hope they've got a trough in there!!


            , [Ok Emerson ...oot the motor !!!!

            Comment


            • #36
              Originally posted by DeeCrowSeer
              Amusingly the cover of The Sun today claims that Shilpa has changed Britain!
              The Scum's new anti-racist stance is making me laugh. They just can't get it right. To judge from yesterday's front cover, they apparently think that "chavs" are a minority ethnic group. In the very same edition as vilifying the hapless Jade for her "Shilpa Poppadom" faux pas, they ran an article in the sports pages that called a Chinese snooker champion (wait for it...) "Pot Noodle"!

              What this is really all about, of course, is covering themselves against charges of racism whilst they incessantly vilify asylum seekers, migrant workers and veil-wearing Muslims, whilst inciting their bigotry-free readers to trash traveller encampments.



              Whilst we're at it - how about The Scum's record on homophobia?



              I've gone on about this before - but how come the press stays silent about the real racists, but focusses so much attention on someone who was genuinely too thick to realise how her comments would be taken (she thought East Anglia was somewhere near Morocco, for Arioch's sake, and her dad was actually black!)

              Let's face it, deep down within the nation a deep pool of resentment against Jade Goody was bubbling away because she's fat, ugly, thick, untalented, completely useless and worth EIGHT MILLION QUID FOR DOING NOTHING! Not a great amount really (think what the scum in the City are paying themselves), but enough to make the not-quite-so fat, ugly, thick, untalented and completely useless masses feel envious.

              So I don't think we're really witnessing a wave of revulsion against racism - more of an upsurge of annoyance against "nonebrity" culture manifesting itself as a large-scale outbreak of the bullying, pack-mentality type of behaviour that was ironically the cause of the whole hoo-ha when presented as entertainment by C4.

              The manipulative nature of CBB sickens me. I will confess to watching it last year, solely because George Galloway was on. Having met the man (I'm not a fan), I found his ludicrous appearance on the show a source of fascination from the outset. He originally hoped to use it as a platform for his political ideas to "appeal to young people". (This in itself was a truly foolish idea, as its well-known that any type of political or otherwise sensible conversation is edited out of the broadcasts).

              It didn't take long for his voluminous ego to get pulled into the pettiness that "Big Brother" so cunningly engineered, so by the end he was in an almighty sulk, and had formed a faction with Michael Barrymore and Pete Burns (bizarre combination) against the younger inmates. Consequence: every young person in the country started to hate him - Radio 1 started a campaign to evict him and he became a national laughing stock due to his creepy pussy cat impersonation with the appalling Rula Lenska ("she's got real class, she's a Polish aristocrat" slimed GG at one unguarded moment which must have had his Socialist Worker followers gagging over their TV-top busts of Lenin.)

              This time around, however, it seems its Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Ken Livingstone and practically the whole country who have been suckered. The politicians quickly moved from condemning the show to endorsing it by urging people to get involved in the voting process and then telling us to celebrate the pointless result as though it were a matter of national importance.

              If the three "racist" contestants are genuinely receiving death threats, suffering breakdowns, losing partners and signing into private mental hospitals as a consequence, then I think its a pretty tasteless form of entertainment. Kind of like badger-baiting, but done with people. Not nice at all.
              Last edited by Mikey_C; 01-31-2007, 01:57 PM.
              \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

              Comment


              • #37
                Quite agree with all of that, Mickey.

                Originally posted by Mikey_C
                Let's face it, deep down within the nation a deep pool of resentment against Jade Goody was bubbling away because she's fat, ugly, thick, untalented, completely useless and worth EIGHT MILLION QUID FOR DOING NOTHING!
                Another equally talentless "media whore" who I find insufferable is Kerry Katona, who much like Jade, appears to make most of her money by blatantly living her 'soap opera' of life within the pages of Heat, Closer, Reveal, Ok!, Now, ad nauseum. One week she's up, the next she's down. Up, down, up, down. One day she's introducing her new fiancé, then she's dumping him, disowning her mother, reuniting with her fiancé, announcing her pregnancy, checking into rehab, being snapped coming out of a nightclub 'tired and emotional', publicising her fitness DVD, moaning about her weight, etc. etc.

                It really can't be healthy to live your life like that, so it comes as no surprise when she announces she's manic-depressive. I can't help thinking that perhaps if KK and others like her didn't have this obsessive compulsion to live their lives under a media microscope in the full glare of the public spotlight then perhaps they'd have, you know, a 'normal' life.

                Of course, then they wouldn't be famous.

                _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

                Comment

                Working...
                X