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    Arianna Huffington was once among the inner circle of America's elite class. She is a Greek immigrant who was married to the US senator from which she recieved her surname. She is now divorced and spends much of her time uncovering the reprehensible behavior that she is aware of by first-hand experiences. She was the only viable female candidate who ran in the California Gubernatorial recall election last year.

    Her lastest book, which has not yet been released, is basically "a collection of
    resignation letters written by disaffected members of the Bush
    administration who so disagreed with administration policies that they
    preferred the uncertainty of the unemployment line to toeing the party
    line."

    "I've also taken the liberty of including excerpts from what I imagine the
    first drafts
    of these letters might have looked like."

    [I thank these unsung heros, and thank you for reading. Enjoy!]

    Arianna

    ********

    * Mike Dombeck, Forest Service Chief resigned on March 27th 2001 after 4
    years on the job.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: “It was made clear in no
    uncertain terms that the administration wants to take the Forest Service
    in another direction…�

    What Mike Dombeck wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter: “It
    was made clear in no uncertain terms that the administration needs to kiss
    a little logging industry ass, having gotten nearly $300,000 in donations
    during the 2000 election (10 times more than Al Gore). Mr. President,
    after all that bark-bussing and timber-tonguing, it’s a wonder you didn’t
    get splinters in your lip or a very painful STD (Sequoia Transmitted
    Disease).

    Fact: Before the US Forest Service approves a timber sale on federal land,
    loggers are currently required to study the impact on endangered animals
    and salmon runs. The Bush White House is pushing to overturn both of
    these requirements.


    * John Brown, Ph. D. was a Foreign Service Officer for nearly 25 years,
    having served in London, Prague, Krakow, Kiev and Belgrade. He resigned
    March 10th 2003.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: “I can not in good conscience
    support President Bush’s war plans against Iraq. The President has failed
    to: explain clearly why our brave men and women in uniform should be ready
    to sacrifice their lives in a war on Iraq at this time; to lay out the
    full ramifications of this war, including the extent of innocent civilian
    casualties; to specify the economic costs of the war for the ordinary
    Americans; to clarify how the war would help rid the world of terror; to
    take international public opinion against the war into serious
    consideration.�

    What John Brown wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter: Come
    to think of it, the above probably is his first draft. After 25 years as
    a diplomat, he had the good sense to mentally edit out words like
    “monumentally stupid� and “worst White House decision since The Bay of
    Pigs.�

    Fact: Since the start of the US war in Iraq, 511 soldiers have been
    killed, and 2424 have been wounded .


    * Bruce Boler, an EPA State Water Quality Specialist resigned from his
    post on October 23rd 2003 because his bosses at the EPA accepted the
    findings of a controversial study that concluded that Florida wetlands
    discharge more pollutants than they absorb.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: “…ultimately the politics of
    southwestern Florida have proven stronger than the science…�

    What Bruce Boler wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter: “This
    report, the people who wrote it and my superiors at the EPA are all
    obviously off their collective rocker. Next thing you know, they’ll be
    telling us that auto emissions are actually reducing global warming.
    Congratulations, Mr. President, you’ve just given greedy Florida
    developers lucrative tax credits for improving water quality by, get this:
    replacing pristine natural wetlands with golf courses, strip malls and gas
    stations. I’m sure they’ll be sure and reward your brother Jeb
    accordingly.�

    Fact: In January 2003, the White House recommended creating a new category
    of “isolated� waters that wouldn’t be subject to the Clean Water Act.
    According to environmentalists, if adopted, hundreds of industries won’t
    need permits to dump their potentially toxic sludge and waste into 20% of
    the nation’s wetlands and 60% of streams that only flow intermittently.


    * Isam al-Khafaji, a member of the Iraqi Reconstruction and Development
    Counsel resigned July 9th 2003.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: “I feared my role with the
    reconstruction council was sliding from what I had originally envisioned –
    working with allies in a democratic fashion – to collaborating with
    occupying forces.�

    What Isam al-Khafaji wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:
    “Rather than working with allies in a democratic fashion – I’m
    collaborating with a fanatical administration that has lied about Iraq’s
    “weapons of mass destruction,� the Saddam-al Qaeda connection, and Jessica
    Lynch’s gun-toting “heroics�. The Bush White House is more concerned with
    the free flow of cheap oil than restoring power, water or democracy in
    Iraq. I’d go on, but the candle in my bombed out hut just went out…�

    Fact: Since the President declared “Mission Accomplished� in Iraq, the
    number of violent deaths in Baghdad has increased 114%.


    * Eric Schaeffer, Director of the EPA Office of Regulatory Enforcement
    resigned on February 27th 2002.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: “I can not leave without sharing
    my frustration about the fate of our enforcement actions against power
    companies that have violated the Clean Air Act… We are fighting a White
    House that seems determined to weaken rules we are trying to enforce.�

    What Eric Schaeffer wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter: “I
    can’t leave without sharing my frustration, Mr. President. Your recent
    proposal to amend the new-source-review component of the Clean Air Act
    is-- how can I say this?— stupendously moronic. It will, among other
    outrages, allow a coal plant in Monroe, Michigan that already emits more
    than a hundred thousand tons of choking sulfur dioxide, nearly forty-six
    thousand tons of nitrous, and seventeen and a half million tons of ozone
    destroying carbon dioxide into the air, to emit about forty thousand more
    tons of sulfur dioxide a year. That may not seem like a lot, sir, but the
    300 or so people who’ll die prematurely from those pollutants are from
    Michigan—one of your precious blue states. Betcha didn’t think of that,
    huh?�

    Fact: In the 2002 presidential election, oil and gas companies, two of the
    leading sources for environmental pollutants donated nearly $25 million to
    political candidates, 80% of which went to Republicans. In return for his
    10% cut of that bounty, President Bush has been working hard to
    systematically weaken clean air standards.


    * John Brady Kiesling, a 20-year veteran of the Foreign Service, whose
    last job was that of Political Counselor, US Embassy Athens, resigned on
    February 27th 2003.

    What he wrote in his resignation letter: �Until this Administration it had
    been possible to believe that by upholding the policies of my President, I
    was also upholding the interests of the American people. I believe it no
    more. I am resigning because I have tried and failed to reconcile my
    conscience with my ability to represent the current administration. I
    have confidence that our democratic process is ultimately
    self-correcting.�

    What John Brady Kiesling wrote in the first draft of his resignation
    letter: “I have confidence that our democratic process is ultimately self
    correcting… and that President Bush will be thrown out of office in 2004
    when the American people discover that he stole the 2002 election, got us
    into a quagmire akin to Vietnam, turned the largest government surplus in
    history into the largest deficit in history, couldn’t find Osama bin Laden
    or Saddam Hussein, and ordered the assassination of beloved comic actor
    John Ritter. Okay, I got carried away with that last one. I think.�

    Fact: The 87 billion dollars President Bush has appropriated to fund the
    war in Iraq could instead have been used to pay the salaries of 1.2
    million school teachers for a year, the college education of 1.5 million
    students, or built 900,000 affordable homes.


    * Karen Kwiatkowski, Undersecretary of Defense Office, Near East Bureau
    resigned on July 1st 2003.

    What she wrote in her resignation letter: “While working from May 2002
    through February 2003 in the office of the Undersecretary of Defense for
    Policy, Near East South Asian and Special Plans in the Pentagon, I
    observed the environment in which decisions about post war Iraq were made…
    What I saw was aberrant, pervasive, and contrary to good order and discipline… If one is seeking the answers to why peculiar bits of
    “intelligence� found sanctity in a presidential speech, or why the post
    Hussein occupation has been distinguished by confusion and false steps,
    one need look no further than the process inside the office of the
    Secretary of Defense.�

    What Karen Kwiatkowski wrote in the first draft of her resignation letter:
    “Don Rumsfeld is an idiot. Don Rumseld is a megalomaniac. If we lose
    this war, blame Don Rumsfeld. I hate Don Rumsfeld. Kill Don Rumsfeld
    dead dead dead; maybe with a blunt object like a ball-peen hammer or a…
    Wait, where was I? Oh yeah: Don Rumsfeld is a duplicitous charlatan, Don
    Rumsfeld is…�

    Fact: When Donald Rumsfeld was considering a run for the White House in
    1998, an article about him in the Chicago Tribune listed “helping to
    re-open US relations with Iraq� when he served as Ronald Reagan’s special
    envoy to the Middle East as one of his career achievements. According to
    the State Department, while Rumsfeld was opening relations with Iraq,
    Saddam Hussein was actively using chemical weapons to systematically
    murder thousands of Kurds.


    * After two and a half years as chief administrator at the EPA, Former NJ
    Governor, Christine Todd Whitman resigned on May 20th 2003.

    What she wrote in her resignation letter: “As rewarding as the past two
    and half years have been for me professionally, it’s time for me to return
    to my home and husband in New Jersey… I leave knowing that we have made
    a positive difference and that we have set the Agency on a course that will
    result in continued environmental improvement.�

    What Christy Whitman wrote in the first draft of her resignation letter:

    “When you honored me by asking me to join your Cabinet as administrator of
    the Environmental Protection Agency, I didn’t know the title would be
    ironic. I naively assumed the post would have something to do with
    protecting the environment, as opposed to protecting the bottom line of
    your campaign contributors. I thought that was Don Evans’ job over at
    Commerce. If I am ever to sleep at night again, I have no choice other
    than to send you this letter. I remember the lump I felt in my throat
    back in 1973 when Elliot Richardson resigned his Cabinet post rather than
    acquiesce to Richard Nixon’s demand that he fire Watergate prosecutor
    Archibald Cox. I had the same reaction seven years later when Cyrus Vance
    also took a principled stand and resigned as Secretary of State in protest
    over President Carter’s military action in Iran.

    "'You would not be well served in the coming weeks and months’ he wrote to
    Carter, �by a secretary of state who could not offer you the public
    backing you need on an issue and decision of such extraordinary
    importance.’ My feelings exactly. As Richardson told Nixon: �Mr.
    President, it would appear that we have a different perception of the
    public interest.’

    “And since I cannot face the prospect of looking my children in the eye
    and explaining why I stood by while the president I served was selling out
    their health, the health of their children and the health of our planet, I
    respectfully submit my resignation – and bid you goodbye.�
    \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
    Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview

  • #2
    Huffington

    I love her!

    But if you're going to throw away your vote, it might as well be with someone that is truly viable. Give me the Greens or Peace and Freedom -- something. It's a sad fact that you can't just run on your name alone. Even the idiot Bush princeling in the White House knows that much.

    If I thought Arianna had better than a snowball's chance in hell of winning, I'd have voted for her. I do also think that she spent a little too much time pointing out the flaws of others, rather than crowing about her own probably brilliant policies, during those public debates. More of her, less of everybody else would have been helpful. Even her negative comments gave others unnecessary public attention. Big mistake.

    Camejo was consummately reasonable with his every statement. Of course, that counts for nothing in today's world. If only he had been a movie star in his previous career...

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    • #3
      In refernce to your poll, whcih for some reason I can't reply to: I'll have to answer C. As I'm a British citizen and though, in personal prefernce, I can't say I think Bush is the best man for the job, until the next President is elected, I can't do much.
      Yawn... I'm off to hibernate until the vote is cast. Or, as Caser might say: Alea Jacata Est!
      (The die is cast)
      Good comfy bed, warmth, ummmmm... zzzzz.

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      • #4
        Go Wes Clark!!
        \"No, I think Space is a dimension of Time. My theory is that Time is a field and that Space exists as an aspect of Time.\" Michael Moorcock

        \"All I know about anything is \"I wasn\'t. I am. I will not be.\" Michael Moorcock

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        • #5
          Krunky, right on. I'm right there with you on your comments! Arianna is very charismatic, but the real issue is that what she says rings true to me. I think I'd still be interested in her views even if she was a shrivelled up old bag. How can you argue against someone who has connections to the elitist inner-circle? She can see behind those closed doors! She's kind of like Erekose... part of something, then having to turn against it!!

          Red arrow hahaha!
          (I think you have to register as a member and sign on to vote?
          es true, Mr. Berry?)

          Marc buddy! talk to you soon
          \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
          Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview

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          • #6
            Spin detected, woot, woot, woot...

            Originally posted by Jerico
            * Mike Dombeck, Forest Service Chief resigned on March 27th 2001 after 4 years on the job.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter:
            What Mike Dombeck wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:


            * John Brown, Ph. D. was a Foreign Service Officer for nearly 25 years,
            having served in London, Prague, Krakow, Kiev and Belgrade. He resigned March 10th 2003.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter: “
            What John Brown wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:


            * Bruce Boler, an EPA State Water Quality Specialist resigned from his
            post on October 23rd 2003 because his bosses at the EPA accepted the
            findings of a controversial study that concluded that Florida wetlands
            discharge more pollutants than they absorb.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter:
            What Bruce Boler wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:



            * Isam al-Khafaji, a member of the Iraqi Reconstruction and Development
            Counsel resigned July 9th 2003.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter:
            What Isam al-Khafaji wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:

            * Eric Schaeffer, Director of the EPA Office of Regulatory Enforcement
            resigned on February 27th 2002.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter:
            What Eric Schaeffer wrote in the first draft of his resignation letter:


            * John Brady Kiesling, a 20-year veteran of the Foreign Service, whose
            last job was that of Political Counselor, US Embassy Athens, resigned on
            February 27th 2003.

            What he wrote in his resignation letter:
            What John Brady Kiesling wrote in the first draft of his resignation
            letter:


            * Karen Kwiatkowski, Undersecretary of Defense Office, Near East Bureau
            resigned on July 1st 2003.

            What she wrote in her resignation letter:
            What Karen Kwiatkowski wrote in the first draft of her resignation letter:


            * After two and a half years as chief administrator at the EPA, Former NJ
            Governor, Christine Todd Whitman resigned on May 20th 2003.

            What she wrote in her resignation letter:
            What Christy Whitman wrote in the first draft of her resignation letter:

            Where are these supposed first drafts ? What is the source (besides spin doctor supreme Huffington)? It sounds like democrat spin to me. Funny how each of these people have the letter and the first draft. Arianna Huffington is just a tiger changing stripes. She used to conservative now she's not, now she is, now she's not.
            Arianna Huffington was once among the inner circle of America's elite class
            That says it all. You people are so short-sighted and lack any memory whatsoever. Huffington was always part of the conservative machine. She was kicked to the curb and now is a spiteful old woman. I don't believe anything she says. You sad liberals will believe anything that jives with your point of veiw. " This article says Bush is an active Nazi, This article says Cheney kills babies, This guy told me that Ashcroft burns people for witchcraft - Oh god it is so true!!"

            Feh. Stop staring at pron all day fellas. And do something besides smoking dope.

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            • #7
              I'm not a Liberal. Although if you like to label me as such, that's fine. It has no affect on me. Label my views as Liberal, it has no affect on me as well. Me being someone who has a sense of humor is closer to what's going on. If you'd like to know more of my "political" views, read the Current Affairs thread.
              The words following the words "first draft" are "speculations" which is a tool for Huffington's sarcasm. She is a satirist. You stand corrected :)
              \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
              Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview

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              • #8
                Hmm. I wonder if I'm one of those 'sad liberals' you're talking about, pard. After all, I actually worked for the Liberal Party many years ago.! :lol:
                Let's not start characterising one another here, eh ? As I've said elsewhere, this is a place for civilised debate. There are plenty of sites which encourage name-calling.

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                • #9
                  Ignore those rants Jer. You da man!

                  I wish we could gather up all this Bush info and put it on Billboards all over the country. Maybe someone will pay attention. This country seems so apathetic.

                  Get out and vote people!! Bush "won" Florida by 500+ votes. He lost the popular election from what I remember. Shoot, if all of us at this site turned out it would make a difference.


                  VOTE VOTE VOTE
                  When they had advanced together to meet on common
                  ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
                  and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
                  each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
                  mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
                  killing, and the ground ran with blood.

                  Homer, The Illiad

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                  • #10
                    My name is also a poem and in a song... :)

                    RESUME
                    George W. Bush
                    President of the United States of America
                    The White House, USA

                    EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

                    LAW ENFORCEMENT: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for
                    driving under the influence of alcohol. I pleaded guilty, paid a fine,
                    and my driver's license was suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving
                    record has been "lost" and is not available.

                    MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I
                    refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use.
                    By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty
                    in Vietnam.

                    COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University. Somehow I mangaged to get
                    in with a C average and remained C student. I was also a cheerleader.

                    PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:

                    I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.

                    I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I
                    bought an oil company but couldn't find any oil in Texas.. The company
                    went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

                    I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took
                    land using taxpayer money.

                    With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil
                    industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected Governor of Texas.

                    ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR:

                    I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making
                    Texas the most polluted state in the Union.

                    During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden
                    city in America.

                    I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in
                    borrowed money.

                    I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American
                    history.

                    With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by
                    over 500,000 votes.

                    ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:

                    I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one
                    billion dollars per week.

                    I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

                    I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

                    I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
                    12-month period.

                    I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
                    U.S. stock market.

                    I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal
                    record.

                    I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year
                    period.

                    Once, after taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst
                    security failure in U.S. history.

                    I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a
                    WMD, and breaking the nuclear arms treaty.

                    In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking
                    Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.

                    In my latest State Of The Union Address, I released a new term: "Weapons
                    of Mass Destruction Program Related Activities," newly justifying our reasons
                    for war.

                    I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.
                    president.

                    In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and
                    that trend continues every month.

                    I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

                    I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
                    president in U.S. history.

                    I set the record for least amount of press conferences for any president
                    since the advent of television.


                    I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to
                    intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

                    I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

                    I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in
                    duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in war time.

                    I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to protest me
                    simultaneously in public venues (15 million people) shattering the
                    record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.

                    I've broken more international treaties than any president in U.S.
                    history.

                    I am proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
                    administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleezza
                    Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

                    I am the first president in U.S. history to order an unprovoked,
                    pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
                    did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S.
                    citizens, and the world community.

                    I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in
                    the history of the United States government .

                    I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations
                    remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

                    I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.

                    I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war
                    (detainees) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

                    I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election
                    inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

                    I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most
                    corporate campaign donations.

                    My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends,
                    Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in
                    U.S. history. My political party used the Enron private jets and
                    corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court
                    during my election decision.

                    I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
                    investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent
                    investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent
                    investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

                    I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
                    attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country
                    in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

                    I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans
                    (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
                    security.

                    I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
                    government contracts.

                    I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice.

                    RECORDS AND REFERENCES:

                    All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father's
                    library, sealed, and unavailable for public view.

                    All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my
                    bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
                    view.

                    All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President,
                    attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and
                    unavailable for public review.

                    Please consider my experience when voting in 2004!

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                    • #11
                      Nice post Angel!

                      I am always looking for all of these facts in one place. Lets make a Bushopedia. Or A BushruinsAmerica-opedia.

                      I posted his DUI arrest in another thread:

                      http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2002/images/bushdui1.gif
                      When they had advanced together to meet on common
                      ground, then there was the clash of shields, of spears
                      and the fury of men cased in bronze; bossed shields met
                      each other and the din rose loud. Then there were
                      mingled the groaning and the crowing of men killed and
                      killing, and the ground ran with blood.

                      Homer, The Illiad

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                      • #12
                        Bravo

                        I agree. Super nice, Angel

                        Now to think of a way to develop a viral marketing campaign out of it for the upcoming election. Hmmm.

                        What will it matter, though? Bush and Deibold will steal the 2004 elction anyway.

                        http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/20...nes/index.html

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                        • #13
                          Did you watch the Russert interview?

                          I don't think the guy is evil, just clueless. He is a rich daddy's boy and he has a very black and white view of the world.

                          I personally am glad that Saddam is gone and that Al Qaeda and the Taliban have been systematically stripped of their power, but I don't think launching a pre-emptive war without the support of our allies was the way to go about it. Bush has no understanding whatsoever of internatinal politics.

                          On the other hand, Clinton launched an illegal war on Serbia with flimsier evidence of "genocide" than Bush had of "WMD" and the whole world loved him for it (other than the Chinese and Russians). He even bombed the Chinese embassy (on "accident"). As much as I think the man was a total slime ball, I will say that he understood how to draw international support, just as Bush's father was able to, and Reagan before him.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, I watched the Russert interview.

                            I think he is corrupt as well as clueless.

                            You're right his limited view can only frame things as "Good" or "Evil". Moral absolutes. That's gotta be a product of his evangelical beliefs.

                            I got a sinking feeling during that interview when he said, "Oh, I'm not gonna lose", referring to the next election.

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                            • #15
                              Apparently the Chinese embassy in Belgrade harboured a transmitter being used by the Milosovic regime, which the Chinese ignored warnings to deactivate. Hence the bombing.

                              I've done a search for this story but I can't find the source (a UK Sunday paper, possibly Observer, maybe Independent of Times), but the same story alledged read somewhere that the Embassy was clear of diplomatic staff, and that only technical staff were present.

                              Of course, this might be the same sort of story as the 'some people were warned about 911' rumours, but on the other hand I think it is far more likely that the embassy was bombed deliberately than accidentally due to 'out of date maps'.

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