I HATE XMAS

[alian]

As "Satan Claus" days are coming up, depression is spoiling me anew.

Now has come time to pay for the riots garbage but nor the insurances companies nor the government wish to cash for burned cars and carbonized stores. I find damnably non-sense to provide funds for cleaning and illuminating Versailles-Chateau or Champs-Elysees, while *BCBG*'s [sorry I didn't find a translation but there is a matching definition in R & Collins] saying to guys whom cars vanished in flames :
- "oh sorry but it'd be unforgiven for our great nation not to cash-burn million euros in Eifel Tower lighting !" ,
and "he-believes-he's-virtually-next president of France" Dark Sarkozy saying to young rioters relatives:
- "it's my duty to inform you of a restriction in your family allowances 'cause you're baaad parents".
Last day, commenting on a TV broadcast on "resto du coeur" [food supply solidarity chain] , freshly UV-lamp tanned prime minister DDeVillepin argued French to cheer in voluntary help. Sure. That wouldn't cost him a lot.

We carry on showing a nea' nea' neat appearance but in our mind we are like the Dorian Gray portrait painting, decaying.
Paris became the most crappy and highest dog shit slag heap city in Europe [MIKE wouldn't take much of what he appreciated in the eighties], and the best is that I guess we know who we are, but we don't give a damn as long as there is power supply to illuminate the motorbike poopers scoopers. (enough "s" ? )
I. H. X.
I hate Xmas.

[PsychicWarVeteran]

I'm hearing you on the situation in France after the riots. I completely understand your frustration and anger.

But why does all this make you hate Xmas?

(Not that I'm defending Xmas or anything, I just wonder how the two are connected.)

[L'Etranger]

Perchance because Christmas Trees were invented en Allemagne?

[PsychicWarVeteran]

Perchance because Christmas Trees were invented en Allemagne?

You've taught me two things with this one sentence, L'E.

1. Xmas trees were invented in Germany. Fact. I should've known this, though, having heard Oh Tannenbaum all my life. :roll:

2. There is another German word for Germany besides "Deutschland".
(Update: I have come to learn "Allemagne" is actually Latin.)

But I still don't know how this figures in to alians hatred of this particular holiday.

[David Mosley]

Lots of people seem to despise the Christmas period these days, some because of the religiosity of the festival, others for the commercialism that is so rampant in the High St or the malls, others still for quite different reasons. So I'm not surprised to see a 'I hate Xmas' thread (although like PWV I'm not sure I quite understand Alian's thesis yet) but I'm inclined to think that Christmas is what you make of it.

[alian]

I'm hearing you on the situation in France after the riots. I completely understand your frustration and anger.

But why does all this make you hate Xmas?

(Not that I'm defending Xmas or anything, I just wonder how the two are connected.)

I'm not complaining but I'm mourning to seeing increasing people in indigence aside or deprived from their family allowances (for having failing in education) meanwhile cash-burn in so frenchy Eiffel Tower luxury lighting . . Atomic electrical power plant , reaaady, pop up the volume! Red alarm red alarm ..
It'd rather get money spent in funds for education, social buildings and so on.
My very private approach of xmas is related both to that thought and also personal obsessional neurosis. I can't imagine why should we mandatory being excited like a wolfy in Tex Avery under the pretext it's xmas ? A Dirac peak of eating ?
For me it's the ultimate ratio of mankind stupidity like shown in the recent movie on WWI when french and germans had a break and found there were nice guys thanks to xmas despite they had been brain-washed to be enemies. Let them say: " Hi, 'love you buddy , but after we have shared food and drinking I'm going to cut you until you bleed like a f* pig !"
Ja , many horrors were invented in Germany , [ including Xmas trees ] , as surely as there were in France, not by the people, but by a couple of a**h****.

[PsychicWarVeteran]

I'm inclined to think that Christmas is what you make of it.

Quite right. If Christmas is gaudy yard decorations, spending as much money as possible on crap, and practicing false piety and showy charity, then I can safely state I hate it too. And I do definitely hate the commercialism of it, but that only serves to keep me from succumbing to the commercial aspects.

I won't be killing myself to get an XBox 360 in time for Christmas.

I will, however, be spending the holiday with those I love and cherish most and thanking God for each one of them.

Christmas is indeed what you make of it for yourself.

[PsychicWarVeteran]

I'm not complaining but I'm mourning to seeing increasing people in indigence aside meanwhile cash-burn in so frenchy luxury Eiffel Tower lighting . . Atomic electrical power plant , reaaady, pop up the volume!

Oh, okay, yeah. I see what you're saying.

I recently pondered how odd it was that people give each other presents for Christ's birthday. Shouldn't the gifts go to Christ, i.e. to the poor and underpriviliged? Why do the people with money spread the wealth among themselves? Wouldn't Christ have expected something more... charitable?

So yeah, the excess all around us does do a bit to stifle the true meaning of Christmas.

[alian]

Christmas is what you make of it.

Ok you have my adhesion too.
But I still wondering why there is one day over 365 that should impulse us to think:
- "hum, well, I can see I'm not alone on the planet, should I think religiously to others - but it's a strain anyway !",
instead of daily ?
There are two ways to tack : hit one time with a fifty pounds "Ruppert" hammer, or everyday little by little.

[Mikey_C]

I'm opposed to all forms of enforced enjoyment.

I quite fancy a few days off, though.

[alian]

Perchance because Christmas Trees were invented en Allemagne?

I can smell a sarcasm in your quote, no?
:roll: I am not a germano phobic, I have a german car and I'm fond of Apfelstrudel, " apple pie vortex ", for your convenience. Very tasty indeed.
In addition germany is involved more than the rest of UE in alternate power supply : wind, solar cells, green alcohol, bull-shit methane (no kidding it's not a bullshit !!!) .:lol:


to PsychicWarVeteran --> I should say I hate what is evil in Xmas.
It's a deviant part of my left side brain, tending to see things in a binary way. My wife always reminds me.

[L'Etranger]

Perchance because Christmas Trees were invented en Allemagne?

I can smell a sarcasm in your quote, no?
:roll: I am not a germano phobic, I have a german car and I'm fond of Apfelstrudel, " apple pie vortex ", for your convenience. Very tasty indeed.
In addition germany is involved more than the rest of UE in alternate power supply : wind, solar cells, green alcohol, bull-shit methane (no kidding it's not a bullshit !!!) .:lol:


to PsychicWarVeteran --> I should say I hate what is evil in Xmas.
It's a deviant part of my left side brain, tending to see things in a binary way. My wife always reminds me.

Don't worry, knowing how good Franco-German ties are by now, I risked the little joke. I feel very much at ease.
My sistzer-in-law niece and nephew are French, incidently.
I too dislike the hypocrite aspects of Xmas, but once you have children it is impossible to steer clear of it 100% - even if I don't belong to any church...

[Talisant]

There are two ways to tack : hit one time with a fifty pounds "Ruppert" hammer, or everyday little by little.

"Ruppert" = Knecht Rupert as Christmas reference or coincidence? :)

[alian]

There are two ways to tack : hit one time with a fifty pounds "Ruppert" hammer, or everyday little by little.

"Ruppert" = Knecht Rupert as Christmas reference or coincidence? :)

Hi,

I don't know who hell is Knecht Rupert , I just took a metaphor based on Korean video game Kingdomn Under Fire (*) human character Ruppert whom sledgehammer ( in a sense of argument) is actually a big sledgehammer.
The metaphor works for when you have to say day after day after day the same thing instead of shouting once! In fact in all my life I never used the hammer, except on myself !!!
I found out that "Knecht" translates farmhand in eng. i.e. man working in a farm ; or it can be view as a KNOUT from the French transliteration of a Russian word of Scandinavian origin cf. cnotta, Eng. knot), the whip used in Russia under Ivan III (1462-1505) for flogging criminals and political offenders.
So if I summarize this data a KNECHT is a kind of cow-boy with a strong pair of arms ? maybe ?
(*)http://www.kuftc.com/

[L'Etranger]

Knecht Ruprecht is the companion with a serf-like status of St. Nikolaus (Nicolas) in Southern German and Austria mythology. He carries the sack and a bundle of strong twigs with which he threatens to punish naughty children.
Not nice to frighten children with this sinister chap. Pretty convenient to split up in one one does good and one who punishes ....