Turd Blossom

[Sky]

You all need to see the movie "OutFoxed." It's all about how the Fox T.V. station is run by the republicans and that is why we don't get valuable information about wtf is really going on in the USA.

For everyone that doesn't think there is censorship wisen up it's rampent as all hell in the good USA. When you have to read news from another country to find out what's going on in your own country that is truely wrong.

I guess you have to hunt for the truth when it comes to knowing what is really going on in the USA. because are t.v station's will not cover it for fear that the greed money from different special interest groups don't want you to see. Open your eyes and see what is really going on in your country you might benifit from it!


Sky-

[Mikey_C]

Luckily the British press isn't so coy about the name: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...053901,00.html

[Doc]

There were a few Calvin and Hobbes cartoons a few years ago that many papers wouldn't run simply because boogers or vomit were mentioned.

Interesting that we're fighting a war in Iraq, supposedly for things like freedom of the press, but we censor comic strips at home, or we don't want to see "turd" in print.

Sometimes the truth is ugly. Sometimes turd blossoms aren't. :lol:

[tekende]

Is "turd" an especially rude word in the States?

Not particularly, no. It's generally viewed as less polite than "crap" or "poop" but still several notches above "shit." I think.

But newspapers tend to be more conservative (apolitically) about language use and content than other media. There were a few Calvin and Hobbes cartoons a few years ago that many papers wouldn't run simply because boogers or vomit were mentioned.

[DeeCrowSeer]

I would agree that "spin", or media management, has always been an integral part of politics, but that doesn't mean that some of us can't still
cross our fingers and wish for politicians who avoid crapping where they eat in the first place... rather than just letting the waste fall where it may and trying to cover the stink.

Is "turd" an especially rude word in the States? I've noticed that the national radio stations in this country can play songs containing the word "shit" at pretty much any hour of the day.... but the DJs aren't allowed to use the word in their links! Very strange.

[Whiskers]

I wouldn't know. All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what it means.

Time Magazine reported in 2001 that George W. Bush's pet names for Karl Rove are "Genius Boy" and "Turd Blossom".

Source: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...107219,00.html

'"Turd Blossom," a Texan term for a flower which grows from a pile of cow dung.'

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove

Intelligent people have recognized the correct implication given the political context.

Also, one other minor point I meant to make earlier and forgot: I highly doubt that the banning of that Doonesbury strip has to do with any sort of conservative bias in the media; more likely, most newspapers simply don't want the word "turd" printed in their publication.

Equal parts of both. Good point there. I wonder how many of those papers have entertainment sections that advertise gentlemen's clubs and casinos. I wonder how many have Nestle coupons in their Sunday papers. I wonder how many of those editors have blind allegence to a governemnt that churns out around 12 dead soldiers daily and literally countless civilian causualties and corpses.

Yeah, you're right. Turd Blossom is just too much to see in print. And god forbid we talk about it in a forum on The Internets.

[tekende]

I thought you felt this was a non-issue, tekende. I'm wondering why you haven't entered any of the "more important" debates available in this forum.

I have yet to see something that really catches my attention. I've only been here two or three days. Give me time.

Well, what do you think this charming nickname means? Give me a positive explanation I can logically appreciate.

I wouldn't know. All I'm saying is that I don't know for sure what it means.

Also, one other minor point I meant to make earlier and forgot: I highly doubt that the banning of that Doonesbury strip has to do with any sort of conservative bias in the media; more likely, most newspapers simply don't want the word "turd" printed in their publication.

[PsychicWarVeteran]

...the name strikes me as an indicator of the locker room mentality that seems to prevail in this administration.

[image moved] Well put, Doc.

[Doc]

Just to throw in my relatively unimportant two cents-

The name isn't just a harmless nickname. Forgetting its implications, which have proven to be pretty valid, the name strikes me as an indicator of the locker room mentality that seems to prevail in this administration.

I remember when Bush called Vladimir Putin "Pootey-Poo." I expected him to flip him with a towel right after he did it.

[PsychicWarVeteran]

I still don't really see the big deal. So the guy's good at making bad stuff look good. Isn't that what politicians DO?

*shrug*

Sure, but not many will blatantly call direct attention to it (either publicly or privately), especially with childish nicknames. Such an act is basically an admission that Bush knows he's in the corruption game and that this fact does not bother him. He finds it so completely acceptable that he feels he can joke about it.

I thought you felt this was a non-issue, tekende. I'm wondering why you haven't entered any of the "more important" debates available in this forum.

I note also that there's no evidence here that a) that definitely is Bush's nickname for Rove and b) that it actually does mean what PsychicWarVeteran says it does.

Well, what do you think this charming nickname means? Give me a positive explanation I can logically appreciate.

[tekende]

I note also that there's no evidence here that a) that definitely is Bush's nickname for Rove and b) that it actually does mean what PsychicWarVeteran says it does.

This has been fairly widely documented in the press for several years, so the requirement of "proof" you want to impose here seems disingenuous. Perhaps you don't intend it that way. One hesitates to ask what you would accept as proof.

I first read of this nickname employed by Bush back in 2001. I thought it was common knowledge. It gave me a laugh when I first learned of it several years ago, but it's hardly sparkling wit. Given the qualities of the person who supposedly coined it, that's not what one expects, of course. :lol:

LSN

This is the first I've heard of it, strangely enough.

[A_Non_Ymous]

I note also that there's no evidence here that a) that definitely is Bush's nickname for Rove and b) that it actually does mean what PsychicWarVeteran says it does.

This has been fairly widely documented in the press for several years, so the requirement of "proof" you want to impose here seems disingenuous. Perhaps you don't intend it that way. One hesitates to ask what you would accept as proof.

I first read of this nickname employed by Bush back in 2001. I thought it was common knowledge. It gave me a laugh when I first learned of it several years ago, but it's hardly sparkling wit. Given the qualities of the person who supposedly coined it, that's not what one expects, of course. :lol:

LSN

[Pietro_Mercurios]

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But even so, I still don't really see the big deal. So the guy's good at making bad stuff look good. Isn't that what politicians DO?

*shrug*

Ask Senator John McCain(R).

[tekende]

I note also that there's no evidence here that a) that definitely is Bush's nickname for Rove and b) that it actually does mean what PsychicWarVeteran says it does.

But even so, I still don't really see the big deal. So the guy's good at making bad stuff look good. Isn't that what politicians DO?

*shrug*

[PsychicWarVeteran]

It's a friggin' nickname. Who cares? There are far more important things to focus on.

Well, to me, it is indicative of deeper, more serious issues. Indeed, it is indicative of the very "important things" of which you speak. It's an acknowledgement that Rove can make anything bad look good. It's a disgusting metaphor for a corrupt practice.

Ironically, in some way it was important enough to you for this to be your first post to this forum. :?

I... had assumed that it was an anatomical reference...

:lol: