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Bush is coming to Denmark

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  • Azariel
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    Bush came to Upstate NY to talk to some "privilaged students" and what did I get? A tax raise to pay the police overtime and the airport shutdown that ensued. Thanks, GWB! I love that tax raise !

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  • Jagged
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    Oops, previous post was me. Forgot to log in.

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    Hm, I guess those bombs in the London subway overshadowed everything else that is going on. It's grotesque how a few fanatics, thinking that The Lord/Allah will reward them in Heaven and feed them grapes and maidens forever, will do any wickedness on this Earth. The McVeighs and bin Ladens of this world, tsk, tsk!

    Too bad that they don't understand that these atrocities will only deliver them to Iblis and and living forever in a cottage house.

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  • Jagged
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    Whew... back. Whadda day. I have to say the Bush scored, actually. In the midst of all his security guards, he does seem to not only keep up dignity, which every stateass can, but also his human dignity and his sense of humour. Not that it changes my views on his policies, but... hats off! George Bush is a gent, after all.

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  • Jagged
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    July 6th

    So, Bush arrived yesterday, spent the night at the Royal Family's summer residence, and after going to Marienborg to have his birthday breakfast with the official host, prime minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen. After breakfast, the two of them had a press conference, which can now be viewed on DR's site (since it was broadcast directly, there's a Danish simultaneous translator voice-over).

    To view, click on the link to the right of the pic of Bush and Fogh on
    http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/art...ticleID=263119

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by L_Stearns_Newburg
    I do not understand what has come over Denmark that it has drifted so far right-ward.
    Now, this is the question I've always wondered I've never seen before. This is right to the meat of things when you talk Denmark today.

    To be quite honest, Denmark hasn't really moved all that much right. Its international image has just been a tad left to reality. Still, it HAS moved, and the reason is simply that we got our eyes open for commercialism. That is, when before a shoe-maker would calculate how much he had spent on making a pair of shoes and adding a fair amount for his work-time to it, the shoe-maker today won't give a damn about professional pride, but look around and see how much dough he can get away with charging. That's the American way.

    The problem with Denmark is that the Danish have a myth about themselves -- that they're morally superior to every other nation. This is an interesting trait, but not uncommon (witness Britain's Rule Britannia, or the USA's self-understanding as being God's Own Country). So, we ole vikings are thinking that whatever we do, we'll still be better than all dem others. We can pull up the tightest immigration laws the world has ever seen, we can start withdrawing funds from 3rd world help, we can start breaching internationally accepted human rights.

    Because you know what, the Danish will think that a reputation for humaniatarinism is something eternal they're born with. I don't doubt that in 50 years or so, historians will be writing these days as the Dark Ages of Denmark. They will ask themselves, how did a country growing increasingly rich become more and more miserly?

    It's not a new story, really. The same thing happened in the USA earlier. The only thing that's left is for Danes to see that they're not any better any other nation on the world's surface: we're all pretty similar when it comes down to basics.

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by LEtranger
    You see that in my country several very obscure movements have tried to jump on that train too
    OH! We got those in DK, too. Only, they're beginning to be socially accepted. They're called Dansk Folkeparti ("the Danish People's Party), and they continually come up with ground-breaking, looking-to-the future suggestions of legislation, such as pupils-shouldn't-be-allowed-to-use-cell-phones-in-class (which they never were, anyway, but let's make a flaunt of our own self-righteousness), we-don't-want-no-bloody-forrigners here (I think I heard that one before), and we-don't-want-no-bloody-forrigners here (I think they already said that, but that's their major cause, so what the heck).

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by LEtranger
    Noble Jagged, I certainly feel more inclined toward Capt. Haddock by sheer temperament, even if the Loch Lommond he drinks is a pretty crappy blended Whisky compared to my current favourite: Bruichladdich.
    Is it? [stares into glass] Still, it's single-malt, innit?

    Originally posted by LEtranger
    I have already passed on the information and I expect the crowd of protesters will be reinforced by a further three to four further fist-waving countrymen and women of yours.
    Yay! Another shaken fist against the Bushian Embassy will help. Not to mention three. Or four, even! That American Bush may not count us, you know, unless a tv camera is turned on, but every one turning up will show the next person that it's possible to make a world using another agenda than Bush's.

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  • L'Etranger
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    Noble Jagged, I certainly feel more inclined toward Capt. Haddock by sheer temperament, even if the Loch Lommond he drinks is a pretty crappy blended Whisky compared to my current favourite: Bruichladdich.

    I have already passed on the information and I expect the crowd of protesters will be reinforced by a further three to four further fist-waving countrymen and women of yours. Nevertheless your information is appreciated and might yet convince more to come.
    One does what one can.

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by LEtranger
    I'm not personally worried, just wanted to know what I would be recommending to the people I know in DK when I direct them to the StopBush link.
    Quite understandable, my eminent etranger (I'm beginning to think of you as The Phantom Stranger of 70es DC comics -- or maybe Captain Haddock of Tintin, but I digress). The people behind this demonstration, as mentioned, are from Socialistisk Folkeparti.

    Socialistisk Folkeparti, if my memory serves, was formed around 1960 in Denmark by some ex-communists (led by Axel Larsen) who weren't satisfied with the way things went in the Soviet Union, but were still convinced that our community might still be better served by encouraging social conscience than blind competition. They have been represented in the pariliament ever since. They're not the extreme left in the parliament today (that is Enhedslisten, a conglumerate of former communists and others), but just a party placing social values higher than the AdamSmith-turned-into-popular-frases that the Anders Fuck government represents.

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  • L'Etranger
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    Originally posted by Jagged
    Originally posted by LEtranger
    And which group/party is taking the lead!
    Oh! Yeah! See what you mean. I like to know who's behind things, too. The people behind the StopBush caimpaign and the demonstration, is Socialistisk Folkeparti (the Socialist People's Party), who're already represented in the Danish Parliament. There's nothing terrorist or anything like that, if that's what you're worrying about. I mean, the right wing party "Dansk Folkeparti" would probably love to shut'em up, but they haven't found a law to do that yet.
    Dear Jagged, I'm not personally worried, just wanted to know what I would be recommending to the people I know in DK when I direct them to the StopBush link. You see that in my country several very obscure movements have tried to jump on that train too and thereby get free support , like the Neo_Facsists and the lunatics of the European Wor.kers Party that is connected to Ly.ndon B. Larouc.he, a weirdo from the USA.

    Integrity is so scarce, you know ...
    L'E

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by LEtranger
    And which group/party is taking the lead!
    Oh! Yeah! See what you mean. I like to know who's behind things, too. The people behind the StopBush caimpaign and the demonstration, is Socialistisk Folkeparti (the Socialist People's Party), who're already represented in the Danish Parliament. There's nothing terrorist or anything like that, if that's what you're worrying about. I mean, the right wing party "Dansk Folkeparti" would probably love to shut'em up, but they haven't found a law to do that yet.

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  • A_Non_Ymous
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    I feel we've had this discussion before. I do not understand what has come over Denmark that it has drifted so far right-ward. What are most of the voters thinking?

    I'm not the person to ask about what people in the US have seen about Bush. I don't watch television.

    Very little tends to be said about Denmark in the American press.

    LSN

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  • Jagged
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    Originally posted by L_Stearns_Newburg
    What is the official position of the Danish government at this time on Bush's visit?
    The official position made by our prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen ( or, as some evil tongues would have it, Anders Fuck), is that Denmark should try to keep up a public relation image of humanitarianism that really belonged to Denmark in the 1970'es but is now long lost. The trhuth about Denmark the past 10 years or so is that the country has become intensely Americanized. I feel like a traitor to say so, but it's the truth.

    As for Anders Fuck's position on Bush's visit... of course he'll love it. I haven't seen him not sucking up to anything Bush ever. Why, did you in the States see the interview with Bush and Anders Fuck recently? Bush complimented Fuck on being a fast runner. Which just goes to any clear-headed Dane to show that Anders Fuck is a neurotic authority-ridden cumpulsive sadomasichist. Yeah, we're the pinnacle of Democracy (rolls eyes)

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  • A_Non_Ymous
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    Tack, Jagged.

    What is the official position of the Danish government at this time on Bush's visit? What are they saying?

    I'll go read the Dansk site ASAP.

    LSN

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