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Surely, comrades, you do not want the Tories back?

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  • Surely, comrades, you do not want the Tories back?

    Listening to Tony last night telling us how we'd better vote for him "or the Tories will get in", brought Orwell's "Animal Farm" to mind more than a little.

    Rather similar to how the Pigs use the threat of Farmer Jones's return to scare the other animals to submission.

    �Bravery is not enough,’ said Squealer. �Loyalty and obedience are more important. .... Discipline, comrades, iron discipline! That is the watchword for today. One false step, and our enemies would be upon us. Surely, comrades, you do not want Jones back?’
    'makes a change, 'cos usually Tony sounds like He's quoting out of "1984".
    \"It got worse. He needed something to cure himself. What? he asked. M-A 19 he answered.\"

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    The sad thing is, though, we don't want the Tories back. :? What are the other options? (Don't say Lib-Dem, please....)
    \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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    • #3
      My Ballot paper has been posted

      Lib Dem.

      Who the hell was I supposed to vote for? B. Liar is a dictator who rules by party whip and Mr OfTheNight is a racist.

      My vote is anti-war and pro-Europe, there is no other choice for me.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mikey_C
        The sad thing is, though, we don't want the Tories back. :? What are the other options? (Don't say Lib-Dem, please....)

        My point was, that instead of promising to be better and maybe even socialist in the future, Labour tell us how much worse it would be under the Tories.

        which is exactly what the pigs say as they persuade the other animals that their new oppression is any different from the oppression they suffered under the old regime.

        Brown's comments today have shown that he is no different from Blair, and that people who are voting Labour "because they'll get rid of Blair after the election and go back to being socialist again" are deceiving themselves.

        I think you should vote for a party whose policies you can agree with, its amazing to me that so many people are planning to vote for a party whose policies they fundamentaly disagree with.

        doesn't that make an Ass out of democracy?
        \"It got worse. He needed something to cure himself. What? he asked. M-A 19 he answered.\"

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        • #5
          My point was, that instead of promising to be better and maybe even socialist in the future, Labour tell us how much worse it would be under the Tories.

          which is exactly what the pigs say as they persuade the other animals that their new oppression is any different from the oppression they suffered under the old regime.

          Brown's comments today have shown that he is no different from Blair, and that people who are voting Labour "because they'll get rid of Blair after the election and go back to being socialist again" are deceiving themselves.

          I think you should vote for a party whose policies you can agree with, its amazing to me that so many people are planning to vote for a party whose policies they fundamentaly disagree with.

          doesn't that make an Ass out of democracy?
          No doubt thats partly to blame for the rise in popularlity that extremist parties like the BNP have been getting at regional and national elections in recent years.
          Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

          Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by M-A_19
            My point was, that instead of promising to be better and maybe even socialist in the future, Labour tell us how much worse it would be under the Tories.
            Very much agreed. Blair would gag if he had to say the 'S' word. I haven't heard Brown's comments, but nothing would surprise me. It was rather desperate how many people got excited last summer because he used the word 'Labour' without the 'New' prefix a couple of times. A return to traditional party values indeed - a couple of weeks earlier he had been off in the States extolling the virtues of deregulated labour markets!

            We've had a few crumbs off them - but the main thing is - if you think things couldn't get worse, then they could! The Tories are talking about
            آ£35 billion in public service cuts. With New Labour, you will still have an NHS, even if it is run by Halliburton and McDonalds, with the Tories there would be nothing if they had their way for long enough.

            Really, though, voting is a depressing experience, to choose between the lesser of two evils. :x I can sympathise with the anarchists to some extent...
            \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mikey_C
              Blair would gag if he had to say the 'S' word.
              Maybe 'neomodernism' is pushing through in this hodge-podge called postmodernism. One can see the signs arising on a geopolitical level.
              Putins statement says as much about the significance for economic restraint on some levels so that socio-economic level could grow in a stable way.

              http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...u/russia_putin

              I hope that 'Soviet Russia' won't rise from the grave though..

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              • #8
                Did anyone see that Question time debate on BBC1? Looks like the best we can hope for is a hung parliament...
                Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

                Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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                • #9
                  By the neck, hopefully...
                  \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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                  • #10
                    http://www.boreme.com/bm/APR05/a/cha...ls/jump_fr.htm
                    You've been warned... 8O :o :x :(
                    \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mikey_C
                      A reprehensible piece of work. "What about the War?", indeed! :roll:

                      Nasty. Nasty. :(

                      I preferred the Liberal Democrat broadcast, about the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf.

                      So. Vote Liberal Democrat and help put an end to the two Tory Parties system.

                      And, don't forget, although New Labourâ„¢ is putting it about that a vote for the Liberal Democrats will help the Tories, that's just tosh. In fact, there's even a chance that voting Liberal Democrat will undermine the Tory marginals more than New Labourâ„¢ ones.

                      So, don't be afraid. It's never too late to make a change.
                      Vote Liberal Democrat! :D

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mikey_C
                        This made me feel sick :( It wasn't untill the "antony" character turned up, that I realised that the "nasty" character was supposed to be a Tory! I really thought he was Blair

                        Originally posted by the nasty bloke in the film
                        I think you'll find I can do whatever I want
                        Thats what Tony will be like after he's got back in

                        and the way he raised his hand to her face, as if to strike Her reminded me of the abusive relationship we the electorate have had with this prime minister.

                        Yes, I know it wasn't a labour video, but it is the very point that labour have been trying to shove down our throats.

                        I haven't got a huge marketing budget like Mr Blair, so I'm afraid you'll just have to imagine my video.

                        ----------------------------------------------------------------------

                        Scene1: A battered Wife tears around a suburban home in tears, after taking one beating too many, she is finally leaving.
                        She sobs as she goes from room to room stuffing things into a bulging suitcase, and all the time, the man follows her, pleading with her to stay, using the same empty promises that he's broken again and again.

                        Scene2:She drags the suitcase out of the house, out towards the car, and the rain mixes with the tears streaming down her cheeks, He shouts after her:
                        "you'll be back, you can't live without me, I'M THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPEND TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

                        Fade to black. Message:You don't have to go back to him, You Don't have to vote Labour.

                        ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                        \"It got worse. He needed something to cure himself. What? he asked. M-A 19 he answered.\"

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                        • #13
                          [quote="AndroMan"]
                          Originally posted by Mikey_C
                          A reprehensible piece of work. "What about the War?", indeed! :roll:

                          Nasty. Nasty. :(
                          I think I should point out that the video is a piss-take! It's basically about imagining what the parties would really like to say if they thought they could get away with it.
                          \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mikey_C
                            Talk about political 'Feelies'... It's strange having political shortstories like that coming on the 'telee'. I'd refrain from using such emotive constructs in the media..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mikey_C
                              [b]...[/i]

                              I think I should point out that the video is a piss-take! It's basically about imagining what the parties would really like to say if they thought they could get away with it.
                              Ah!
                              Originally posted by BoreMe.com



                              Lee Ford and Dan Brooks, creators of the still-funny-to-us spoof suicide bomber VW Polo commercial, have gone political with three TV spots for Channel 4, which graphically lay out thoughts on the three political parties without all the usual considerations of tone.

                              "C4 gave us a completely open brief to do whatever we wanted. Basically, we set about creating the kind of broadcasts the three main parties would like to make if there were no regulations and they didn't have to be politically correct. The aim is leave the viewer thinking, 'O my God, did they actually make that?'"

                              http://www.boreme.com/bm/APR05/a/cha...ls/jump_fr.htm
                              Just seemed so much like something New Labourâ„¢ porno-spin artists, at Millbank HQ, would actually dream up.

                              :lol:

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