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Dirty Deeds - Done Dirt Cheap

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  • LoE
    Nomad of the Time Streams
    • Jun 2004
    • 41

    Dirty Deeds - Done Dirt Cheap

    Some reasons why I don't vote Republican! Thursday, 1:56 PM
    Republicans conspire with Libertarians against Democratic Sen. Cleland in Georgia

    In a recent letter that sounds like it was written by a Republican, Libertarian Party National Political Director Ron Crickenberger charged that "liberals tried to steal the 2000 presidential election with their 'Sore Loserman' campaign in Florida. [NOTE: Gore and Lieberman are moderates, not liberals; and all they did was take advantage of Florida law to ask for hand recounts in certain counties within 72 hours of the election.] They stole control of the U.S. Senate when GOP turncoat Sen. Jeffords jumped ship, leaving Tom Daschle in charge. [NOTE: Jeffords left the Republican Party because it had gone too far to the right and was not addressing issues he supported.] Now they're fighting to keep that control... and they're doing it 'by any means necessary.' [NOTE: How exactly are 'liberals' fighting to keep control by any means necessary? What control do they have -- Republicans control the House, White House, Supreme Court, and media? Have Democrats bribed a third party to field candidates in Congressional races? Have Democrats put up phony candidates in races? No, but Republicans have.] Well, it's time to fight back... using our own political tricks. [NOTE: You've already been doing that for years.]"

    Crickenberger bragged about the Libertarian Party helping to defeat Georgia Democratic Sen. Wyche Fowler in 1992, when Republican Paul Coverdell won in a runoff after the Libertarians endorsed him. Crickenberger then outlined an "under the radar" scam this year to steal the votes of African-Americans who would normally vote for Democratic Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia.

    "We're going to get a sizeable percentage of black Democrats - the ones most likely to vote - to vote AGAINST the Democrat incumbent, and FOR the Libertarian candidate," Crickenberger wrote. "These are voters who are passionate about one issue that Democrats are on the wrong side of: education choice, like vouchers and tuition tax credits....This is an 'under the radar' campaign - a 'sneak attack,' if you will....Cleland is the Libertarian Party's most targeted Democrat in this year's elections. We plan to attack him using other means as well, to pull black Democrats away from his vote total."

    So did Republicans put the Libertarians up to conduct such a negative, targeted campaign against a Democrat? Some sources I talked to said it sure sounded like it. This letter has been circulated by Republican sites like NewsMax, so at the very least, Republicans are helping Libertarians raise money for this campaign.

    I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for the Libertarian presidential candidate in 1980, when I was a confused college student who liked that party's message of individual liberties. It was a wasted vote, one that would have been better spent on Democrat Jimmy Carter. There are some aspects I like about the Libertarian Party, but right now, it's hard to think of any.


    Republicans try to bribe Greens in New Mexico

    In New Mexico, state Republican Party Chairman John Dendahl admitted that he promised "at least $100,000" to the state Green Party in exchange for the Greens fielding candidates in two of New Mexico's three congressional districts. His aim was to siphon votes from the Democrats, he said. Dendahl claimed he was acting as a "messenger" on behalf of an unnamed donor from the Washington, D.C., area.

    The Greens, to their credit, refused Dendahl's offer, which the Greens said was as much as $250,000, and did not field candidates for the congressional seats. The New Mexico attorney general said the bribe attempt demonstrated "an attempt to manipulate the election process," but the offer was not illegal under state law. Idle question: Since when is bribery legal?

    I have received other reports of Republicans contributing to Green campaigns and even voting for Greens to bolster their chances at spoiling Democrats' hopes. I have not been able to verify most of them. Green Party leaders say that, unlike the Libertarians, they do not have a national strategy to intentionally spoil elections, and they are not conspiring with Republicans.

    Additional note: As a progressive, liberal Democrat who sometimes votes for Greens when there is not a Democrat in the race, I don't see the value of ostracizing Greens just because they support their parties' candidates. Sure, I don't like Green Party leaders like Ralph Nader misleading people by saying there are no differences between Republicans and Democrats. And I don't like Green supporters like Michael Moore urging people to vote against Congressional Democrats who supported Bush's war legislation, but not the Republicans who brought the issue to the table in the first place.

    And I argue sometimes with Greens that they helped get Bush in office. But then, so did the Socialists, who also amassed more votes in Florida than Bush's margin of "victory" there. For years, Republicans have complained how Libertarians have siphoned votes from them, even blaming them for losing the U.S. Senate seats in 1996 in Georgia held by Cleland and in 2000 in Washington state held by Democrat Maria Cantwell. If that does happen, it is balanced out by Libertarians helping to elect Republicans, such as the late Sen. Coverdell from Georgia in 1992, and Greens helping to elect Republicans in states like New Mexico.

    I am slowly coming around to see that Democrats have to find ways to form alliances with Greens - who, after all, have been very active in protesting against Bush's policies, sometimes more so than Democrats - that will benefit both parties. One way is to support a concept Greens and others like the Center for Voting and Democracy are pushing called Instant Runoff Voting. Basically, voters rank two choices for an office. If one candidate fails to get 50 percent of the vote, the voters' second choices come into play. Under this system, Gore would have easily taken the presidency he won in 2000 without the drawn-out recount battle and despite the Republican fraud. And third parties like the Greens would have a better idea of their support - many progressive Democrats like me would give them my second-choice vote - and not be accused of spoiling elections.

    The concept has been tested in other countries - Australia uses it for parliamentary elections, as does the Republic of Ireland for presidential contests. San Francisco recently adopted IRV for major offices beginning in November 2003. The New Mexico state Senate passed the measure in 2001, but it died in the House. For more information, visit

    I also support proportional representation, a more complicated system where parties obtain the proportion of positions according to the proportion of votes they receive. This system is at least partially used in 39 out of 41 major democratic countries, with the U.S. and Canada the only exceptions. For instance, if the Democrats gained 49 percent of the national vote, they would receive 49 percent of the Congressional seats. If Greens get 3 percent of the vote, they actually would gain some representation in Congress. More info on this can be viewed at Of the two, I think IRV is more likely to be supported by the major parties than proportional representation.

    That said, until we have IRV or something similar, I hope Green voters consider voting for Democrats, especially in Congressional races [Greens are fielding 42 candidates for the House and six for the Senate]. We need to kick Republicans out of office before they control every single segment of our government.


    Republicans recruit phony candidates to run as Democrats in Michigan

    Republicans in Michigan recruited "stealth" candidates to run as phony Democrats for nine state Senate seats, all Democratic-controlled districts. Local newspapers - see, there are some good journalists out there - exposed the scam after an 18-year-old was recruited to run, violating a law in which state Senate candidates must be at least 21.

    Michigan Republican state Senator Ken Sikkema acknowledged Republican involvement in the scheme, attributing it to "overzealous staffers." Idle question: Why does the party that's always talking about "taking responsibility" always pass the blame to some unnamed scapegoat or to Democrats?


    Republicans manipulate voting machines in Texas

    In Dallas, Texas, a bastion of Republican strength where both Bush and Cheney lived for several years in the 1990s, machines used for early voting are marking votes made for Democratic Sen. Candidate Ron Kirk in the column of Republican John Cornyn. Dallas County Democrats have sued to suspend early voting. County election officials, who are all Republicans, blame mistakes on the calibration of the machines in the key Senate battle.

    I lived in Dallas County for decades, and it has a long history of such electoral manipulation. I don't trust election officials here at all.

    Protest note: For those living in the Dallas area like me, there will be a protest of Bush's appearance at SMU on Monday, Nov. 4. There will be a rally starting at 4 p.m. at Central Expressway and Mockingbird Lane. From there, people will march to Moody Coliseum, where Bush will be speaking. Tickets for the Bush event are free and can be picked up at the Republican Party headquarters starting at noon on Saturday, Nov. 2. The headquarters is located at 9667 N. Central Expressway near Walnut Hill Lane. For the rally, you can ride the DART rail to Mockingbird Station or park on the east side of Central. For more information, call 214-823-7793.


    Republicans intimidate African-American voters in Arkansas

    In Arkansas, Republican Sen. Tim Hutchinson and Democratic attorney general Mark Pryor are locked in another tight, key Senate race. Democrats have charged that two Hutchinson campaign workers harassed African-Americans at a county courthouse by asking for identification - in addition to their voters registration cards - before they could vote. They didn't ask other voters for such IDs.

    A Democratic Party official said it was a "calculated effort to intimidate African-American voters." Judging by what went on in 2000, especially in southern states like Arkansas, Tennessee, and Florida, it sounds like Republicans are continuing their racist tactics.


    Missouri Republican election official accused of confusing issue

    In Missouri, Democrats have filed a lawsuit to block rules issued by Republican Secretary of State Matt Blunt concerning a law allowing a voter whose eligibility is questioned to cast a provisional ballot that is counted only if eligibility is later verified. The law was passed after Republicans complained of alleged voter fraud in strong Democratic precincts in St. Louis in 2000. Democrats say Blunt's new rules confuse the issue.


    South Dakota Republicans try to keep Native Americans from voting

    Republicans are trying to keep absentee votes made by Native Americans in South Dakota from being counted in the hard-fought Senate race between Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson and Republican Rep. John Thune. Republicans have asked for federal election monitors on American Indian reservations, which some say will intimidate new voters.


    Republicans' use of private planes from Enron and Air Force One

    Bush, Cheney, and other Republicans have spent thousands of taxpayers' money to campaign for Republican senators using Air Force One in recent months. Clinton and other Democrats did this, but not to the extent that Bush & Co. are doing so this year.

    Besides outspending Democrats by about five-to-one in the 2000 battle for Florida, Republicans used private planes from Enron Corp. and Halliburton Co., the firm headed by Cheney that also practiced phony accounting fraud, to crisscross the state and block the counting of Florida votes.


    White House influence on Ventura administration in Minnesota

    Chief White House dirty trickster Karl Rove reportedly called Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura, a Reformer-Independent, and Secretary of State Mary Kiffmeyer, a Republican, to get them to agree to throw out absentee votes for the late Sen. Paul Wellstone, but retain those for Republican Senate candidate Norm Coleman. A ruling issued by Kiffmeyer's office read like one of Rove's memos, not like previous rulings by the office. The Minnesota state Democratic Party took the issue to court and won a concession that new ballots have to be mailed to those who voted absentee.

    Ventura is also considering appointing an independent to Wellstone's seat, which could throw the Senate to Republicans until new senators are installed in January.

    Previously, Bush called Coleman to tell him to run for the Senate instead of governor, as Coleman originally planned to do.


    More dirty tricks in Florida

    The Sept. 10 primary in Florida was marred by widespread confusion, mostly in Florida's two biggest Democratic-strong counties, Miami-Dade and Broward. Numerous glitches were reported concerning the touch-screen voting machines, causing long lines, delayed results, uncounted votes, and voters who left without voting. Rep. Gov. Jeb Bush tried to blame Democratic election officials in those counties for the problems, despite the fact that the Republican-controlled elections department ultimately calls the shots. In the Democratic primary, Bill McBride barely won over Janet Reno, the former U.S. attorney general who was strongly opposed by Bush.

    Also in Florida, the same list used to delete the names of thousands of mostly Democratic voters from voting rolls is being used for this election, despite the state recently settling a lawsuit about the issue with the NAACP. In addition, misleading fliers and emails are being circulated again, saying that some people should vote on a day after Nov. 5. Similar fliers and emails were circulated in Florida before the 2000 election, which some say confused some voters there.


    Republicans try to turn the tables by accusing Democrats of dirty tricks

    The Republican National Committee has formed a hotline [1-866-NOT-TRUE] and Web site [] to report supposed Democratic attacks and dirty tricks. It's a case of the crooks trying to point the finger at others so no one will finger them. Here are some examples of "outrageous" Democratic "dirty tricks" reported to the RNC:

    "Lois Capps is doing her usual thing, speaking about how Republicans are hurting the elderly." [The nerve! Imagine that, a Democrat telling the truth about Republicans! What a dirty attack!]
    "There are television ads running in the greater Boise area attacking the president's plan." [Call the National Guard! A TV ad attacking the president's policies, oh no!]
    "In Allentown, there was reported repeatedly on the news a bus trip to Canada for drugs, saying in the report that the people on the bus won't be voting for our Republican candidate because of his stance, then interviewed the head of the trip who endorsed O'Brien, the Democratic Congressional candidate. I didn't know [if] it was out of the game book, it wasn't presented that way, it was a local news story." [More Democrats controlling the news media, telling a newscaster what to say, no doubt!]
    I reported an attack to the RNC myself, though it was one done by Republicans. I haven't seen it listed on the RNC site yet. Should I hold my breath?
  • Bill
    Champion of the Balance
    • Feb 2004
    • 1063

    I didn't want to waste time and band width on the whole articles, but you can google them to get the meat. Keeps with the theme, I think, no?

    Republicans Responsible For Tipping FBI To Secret Johnny Sack-Tony Soprano

    Republicans Responsible For Extinction of Dinosaurs

    Republicans Responsible For Hiding Water On Mars From NASA Probe

    Republicans Responsible For Rape Charge Against Kobe Bryant; Aides Say Goal Was To Better Sixers' Chances

    Republicans Responsible For Missing Venus de Milo Arm

    Republicans Responsible For Famed Krakatoa Volcano Eruption

    Republicans Responsible For Supernova in Galaxy 45021-ER384832

    We need to stop these damn Republicans before another star is lost!!!!!!

    Please. After the comment that "Gore and Leiberman aren't liberals, they are moderates", it became all pops and whistles to my ears.


    • Jerico
      Champion of the Balance
      • Jan 2004
      • 1577

      I dunno about any of that stuff mentioned above,

      but the stuff on Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and
      Kerry's Vietnam record is on MSNBC.

      MSNBC is covering this stuff a lot!
      They say The NY Times (if I remember correctly) printed that
      the anti-Kerry Swiftboat veterans are
      backed by two individuals tied to the Bush Administration.

      It's on the news too damn much all this stuff.
      Which candidate does this benefit? I'm not sure.

      I agree with the notion that it's not helping we,
      the people, who need to decide and vote, at all.
      And enough of the dang Peterson trial!
      \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
      Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview


      • Jagged
        A confused voice within
        • Mar 2004
        • 760

        Originally posted by Bill
        Republicans Responsible For Extinction of Dinosaurs
        Really? I wouldn't be surprised if Bush caught that headline for his election campaign. Old ladies can walk safely in the street now!

        Originally posted by Bill
        Republicans Responsible For Supernova in Galaxy 45021-ER384832
        ... and maybe there're a couple of astronomers' votes in there.
        "If the environment were a bank, we would already have saved it." -Graffitti.


        • Woody
          Nomad of the Time Streams
          • Jan 2004
          • 39

          Re: Dirty Deeds - Done Dirt Cheap

          Originally posted by LoE

          NOTE: Gore and Lieberman are moderates, not liberals
          I'm sorry I didn't read much past this because I can't think of a more false statement. Sorry I'm still giggling. :lol:


          • Kitsune
            Guardian of the Grail
            • Aug 2004
            • 415

            Re: Dirty Deeds - Done Dirt Cheap

            Considering Gore sponsered the Kyoto Accords that were shot down with a huge majority in the Senate... I'd have to say that Gore is more than just a little left of center for America... this a typical liberal failing... they place the center where they want it to be rather than where it is. That's not to say that hardline right wingers don't do the same thing, I just don't know of any examples.
            Originally posted by Woody
            Originally posted by LoE

            NOTE: Gore and Lieberman are moderates, not liberals
            I'm sorry I didn't read much past this because I can't think of a more false statement. Sorry I'm still giggling. :lol: