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  • Battlestar Galactica

    Is anyone looking forward to seeing this?

    http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

    I quite liked the pilot - much darker than the original series, and Edward James Olmos didn't really deserve the stick he got for playing Adama.
    Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

    Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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    Of course here in the UK the new series has been running for several weeks now and very good it is too. It is a lot darker, looking at the everyday problems of survival in a fleet of spaceships, the hunt for water etc as well as the search for the enemy within.

    Worth a looksee.
    Statistically 6 out of 7 dwarfs are not happy.

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    • #3
      What? Kara Thrace = Starbuck? A female Starbuck? Arrghh..... 8O What next? It is hard to see your heroes go...

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      • #4
        No irritating irritating Daggits or Noah Hathaway thank god.
        Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

        Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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        • #5
          There is that. :D

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          • #6
            Or Galactica 1980 - with the milky bar kid and flying bikes

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            • #7
              Blargh! 8O


              Gawd, that show stank. I actually wrote a novel (back when I was, like, 15 :)) to basically erase the entire 1980 show from history. I never submitted it anywhere, for which I'm kinda sorry now. My friends told me it was actually fairly decent.

              The first step is to admit your addiction and seek help....yes, at one time, I was a serious Galactica nut, able to list all 7 named battlestars in a single bound.

              Later, I got better. :twisted:

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              • #8
                Pity the original series never wound up satisfactorily.

                Though I seem to remember the 'premiere movie' of the original Battlestar Galactica series was a re-edit of the first 2 or 3 episodes. In the movie - there was a scene where Baltar got his head cut off by the cylons, but in the series of course it was missing.
                Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

                Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by devilchicken
                  Pity the original series never wound up satisfactorily.

                  Though I seem to remember the 'premiere movie' of the original Battlestar Galactica series was a re-edit of the first 2 or 3 episodes. In the movie - there was a scene where Baltar got his head cut off by the cylons, but in the series of course it was missing.
                  Yeah, it was removed and replaced with the Cylons' Imperious Leader (hey, truth in advertising, eh wot?) sparing him. Good choice, too. When it comes to evil heavies, you can't get much better than John Colicos. (r.i.p., I believe, and recently....?)

                  The cinematic timing in the theatrical release was somewhat better than the later-seen TV pilot, too. And it was shown in Sensurround, too! I honestly can't remember if my mom took me to see it in the theater. Probably not, as we were living in backwoods Connecticut at the time, far away from such modern claptrap as movie palaces. :)

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                  • #10
                    Did anyone else see the premier last week? I was rather underwhelmed. And I am one who goes for the "big space ship" shows.

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                    • #11
                      I stopped watching after two mintues. "Nervous Cam" or "shaky cam" is not art and is annoying as fuck. Shakey cam sends one clear signal: "Instead of being creative, we resort to special effects to hide the defficiencies in writing.

                      No offence intended to those who enjoy the show.
                      The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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                      • #12
                        New BSG: Sci-fi and Sex? Annoying Characters...

                        I've been following the new Battlestar Galactica series and i'm just disappointed by some of the elements with the 'new' version created by the Sci-Fi Channel. I was somewhat baffled and uninspired when i read the script for the pilot of the series, which was rather unprofessionally
                        written. I chose to watch the new series anyway to see where it was going with the original material of the sci-fi series which me and my brother enjoyed following as kids. There where some promising new changes i thought, which could renew the series in a more modern direction. They wanted to make a series that "would become more real to the audience", with flawed characters and such. And as my brother and i watched the series we only winced at all the 'sex' they kept busy with aboard the Galactica. I'm not moralizing, i don't mind sex in a series at all... It's just that it kept getting in the way of the story, and our view of the characters personal integrity kept being flushed down the toilet.
                        Sex in sci-fi series are individual stress-points and should be used to create the characters personal world, and how the character relates to his world socially. Not a flamboyant endeavour, it just turns into soft porn that way. The devices of the story have changed drastically as well, no longer is there a (lizardous) imperious leader at the heels of "the rag-tag fleet". Cylon fighters are now organic?. And cylons have synthetic human-looking copies of twelve that worship an "Almighty God" (Allah?) which is a really annoying device used by the script-writers. There are some really annoying characters aswell: Number 6, played by a former fashion model. Stays in the head of a scienctist (Baltar) which only he sees sometimes?! (it's just weird). And i hate the music in the background when it's here que in the scene. The human-looking-cylons have infiltrated human society, and act as terrorists on occasion. US paranoia anyone? I can really feel the 50's b-movie communist scare in this, why don't they just snap on turbans and we'll see what it's about.
                        There are some good actors being dealt some bad cards.
                        Mary McDonnell plays President Laura Roslin perfectly. But suddenly her character gets these annoying profetic visions near the end of the first season. James Callis as Doctor Gaius Baltar is really ok, but gets the most nastiest cards on the series.. He should quit.. really....
                        Jamie Bamber (Apollo) really sucks at acting..
                        As do many of the others.

                        About the CGI in this movie i can only say: Lighting! Lighting! LIGHTING!
                        I've studied and worked (amateur) with 3D Modelling and post-processing and i know people who would have done a better job... A HELL of alot better. I don't think they know how light/shadأ­ng behaves in space. After all... They wanted realism.

                        Anyway... I really like the idea of having more realism in Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre's. But not when it's done as shoddy as this.

                        The original series is dated i give u that. Bad acting etc.. but it was a childhood favourite. So i ordered the original series DVD box.

                        The original Vipers... Sounded like the pilots where inside a giant vacuum cleaner.. :) But the helmets looked cool..

                        On a footnote... I Heard that Dr. Who was going in the same direction as the new BSG?!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheAdlerian
                          I caught a little of that show and had mostly negative conclusions about it.

                          It looks to me as if the writer was given the project and decided to deconstruct the whole thing like in the film Adaptation. Did you see that? Anyway, my bet is that the whole thing has no really plot at all. I get the feeling that the show is just a concept that was never meant to go anywhere. Here in the US the show just started , so I can’t be a real judge, but that’s the feel that I get. Also, why did they bother to name it BSG, as only the shell is left.

                          Additionally, I almost spit out my soda when I saw people on the alien space ship wearing Earth business clothes. That’s just bad in so many ways.

                          I predict cancellation.
                          No shit! Caprica looks like Seattle.
                          The original series had something only a fan could hint at.
                          Besides... The whole original series was based on half-baked theories from Von Dأ¤niken and the popularity of his book 'Chariots of the Gods' back in the seventies. I think the film crew missed the whole ancient astronaut theory entirely.

                          But they wanted "realism" for this series. But all they got was Sex & The City in space.

                          "Film Adaptation" ? I don't know what you are really refering to? Do you mean the one FOX was gonna do with Brian Singer?

                          I DL'd the whole season that where shown on sky-one (UK). All for the scrutiny of me and my brother as they don't show it on TV here in sweden. Don't wanna contribute a penny to this garbage either.
                          I only hope they will cancel it..

                          BTW: Richard Hatch is a wimp. Alotta whining and he gets a part.
                          Dirk Benedict and Lorne green where the only good actors in the original.

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                          • #14
                            Because I loved Battlestar Galactica so much as a child, I will abstain from soiling the memory with the Sci-Fi Channel's new series. Thanks for the warning, guys!

                            "By your command." I loved that.
                            "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
                            --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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                            • #15
                              I'm going to voice an obviously unpopular opinion here:

                              I have really taken to the new series.

                              I was indifferent to begin with, but continued watching it because my wife liked it (she had never seen the original); eventually, as the weeks passed in front of Sky 1, I began to appreciate it for its own merits, rather than drawing inevitable comparisons with the 70s version.

                              To any that haven't seen it though, it is more a re-imagining rather than a re-make, and as long as you view it with this in mind, and can get over the inevitable shock when many of the basic ideas are messed with, you are left with an enjoyably dark, and certainly more realistic, sci-fi series.

                              Sure, if you don't like change, you are going to hate this big style, but change bothers me little if it is done with solid reasons in mind, and here I believe it has been.

                              If anyone wants to argue this I might respond with my reasons in full, but one comment deserves a small amount of attention:

                              But they wanted "realism" for this series. But all they got was Sex & The City in space.
                              I can in no way see how this is a justifiable comment. The two series have nothing in common bar the fact that people have sex, something I'm sure does happen in the majority of homes on this planet, and would indeed happen in any environment where people get together; however, if you could elaborate what you mean here, perhaps you can show me how I am wrong.

                              In sum, my opinion is: The child in me loves the original, it harks back to a simpler time in my life, where good guys were good guys and bad guys were bad guys, and pilots wore Egyptian-style helmets; but the adult in me prefers the new version, with it's maturer stories and themes, its open willingness to grapple adult content (sex, torture, betrayal, religion, terrorism - to name a few), and its dark, desperate, unremittingly gritty atmosphere.

                              Of course others won't agree with this, but variety is the spice of life.

                              :D

                              H.
                              Hapimeses.com

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