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  • Frank Frey
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    Rambo IV...Oh dear Gawd! Will it never end? I really disliked Rambo I. I thought that the next two were pretty decent action movies but that was about it. I really don't a reason to come out with "John Rambo".
    BTW, as an interesting bit of trivia, there was a John Rambo among the 58,000 Americans killed over there. He was an Army Staff Sergeant and his name is on the Wall.

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  • opaloka
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    I may eat my words but just about anything will be better than 'Conan the Destroyer'.

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  • devilchicken
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    Looks like Millennium firms, which is putting out this John Rambo trash has just secured the rights to Conan.

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  • opaloka
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    Or why would someone get a Rambo IV when you can buy the Rambo pills anywhere?

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  • UncleDes
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    ...

    A window into the UncleDes psyche here, but when I saw the title of this thread, I was wondering exactly what it was that Rambo was receiving intravenously.

    Des

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  • opaloka
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    Yeah I saw the Rambo movies, it seems to me that they were some kind of adolescent wish-fulfillment for mainstream white America, an 'oh yeah? kick sand in my face? we'll see what happens, you just wait!' to the world. The political subtext was so explicit it gave too much levity to the ridiculous violence. Just the nasty, paranoid, brutal aspect of America masturbating as you said.

    Did you ever see 'Red Dawn?' That's got to be one of the silliest movies ever made. The first scene says it all: USSR paratroopers descending on a US school in the heartland, Iowa or wherever.

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  • devilchicken
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    I only saw Rocky once - but I've seen number 4 several times (the one with Dolph Lundgren). It was terrible.

    Still - the recent movie was actually pretty good all told. Far better than I would have given Stallone credit for.

    That said, the Rambo movies with the exception of First Blood Pt1 are universally terrible. Rambo is so stuck in the 80's I just can't see how they could make it relevant to a modern audience. And by the looks of this - they haven't. Adding a puerile political subtext to justify cutting a guy's head off with a knife, tearing someone's throat out with his fingers, and disemboweling a person - doesn't really add a lot.

    The villains have to be so unsympathetic that Rambo can gut, shoot, stab, and burn them to death with impunity. Rather masturbatory IMO - and with the political stuff, its just a nasty piece of imperalist pornography.

    Did you ever see the second one? Rambo runs through a fully populated Vietnamese village pursued by soldiers. Then turns and fires 'grenade-arrows' into it (somehow in mere seconds - the village has now emptied) and the whole place (literally the entire village) explodes in flames.

    Then there's number 3 - where he takes on the entire Soviet Occupation force in Afghanistan from a desert fox hole.
    Last edited by devilchicken; 08-07-2007, 09:13 PM.

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  • opaloka
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    Cool, now I don't have to see it.

    Rocky and First Blood were good movies, I can't say anything else he's done is particularly worth seeing. I kind of liked the Rocky that had Mr. T in it.

    As for Myanmar, the Burmese Way to Socialism is the Stupid Way to Socialism.

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  • devilchicken
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    I'm sure everyone will love to know that you can see a trailer for this cinematic masterpiece - here.

    The Late Ingmar Bergman would be proud.

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  • devilchicken
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    What I find weird is that Stallone thinks Rambo is such a viable character - the original movies were hardly that memorable.

    First Blood was ok, but was totally obliterated by part 2 and Rambo 3, which were little more than exercises in American imperialist porn.

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  • johneffay
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    Originally posted by Mespheber View Post
    I can't wait for Rambo XXIII: Stallone on a wheelchair and a machine gun.
    Robo-Rambo: They could CGI his face onto a cyborg body.

    Come to think of it, I would probably go to see that...

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  • DeeCrowSeer
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    As a slightly biased Michelle Rodriguez fan, I'd put in a plug for Girl Fight here. Like L'E I don't really have much interest in boxing, but this film was more about a young woman dealing with the anger inside her, and trying to find a focus for that rage, as well as slightly more healthy outlet for it. There's also a romantic element to the story, and the self-empowerment angle. It predates Million Dollar Baby, but I'm not trying to imply anything by saying that! It struck me as an inspiring film, although all the workout scenes made me feel very fat and lazy... which I am, so I guess I only have myself to blame...

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  • lemec
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    Originally posted by L'Etranger View Post
    Well, if you expect a classical drama among boxers, only a female variant, then you are bound to be disappointed. Indeed, Million Dollar Baby is a love story and a strong statement about a person's freedom of choice. And it is very well made.

    House of Sand & Fog is discouraging look at human behaviour. How disparate perceptions of your opposite's motives can be, how tragic! Both parties wanted just a little bit of happiness!
    I would have wished the movie weren't so black, but I don't regret seeing it.

    Both motion pictures were very well made and their actors deserve all praise.

    I think that cinema in America has in part taken the role that journalism and TV have neglected - to show up grievances in a over-commercialised society, to show what it looks like if you lose, to remind that losers have faces, names, lives. There is a lot of grief and dirt and the media often just plaster it over and give you the "sexier" message that all is fine. At least those media that heavily depend on commericيals tend to avoid such things, because NIKE, Coca Cola, Sony and all the others don't want to be associated with "depressing" content.
    Movies (and license-financed TV, by the way) are much more independent.
    L'Etranger,

    Ah! Good point. It is more clear to me now.

    I guess it is just hard for us to see suffering,even if it is fictional.

    -but,I do see things in a new light now,better understanding,I suppose that is why I watch movies,like that, that I know will be sad and want to see the art and message in them.

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  • L'Etranger
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    Well, if you expect a classical drama among boxers, only a female variant, then you are bound to be disappointed. Indeed, Million Dollar Baby is a love story and a strong statement about a person's freedom of choice. And it is very well made.

    House of Sand & Fog is discouraging look at human behaviour. How disparate perceptions of your opposite's motives can be, how tragic! Both parties wanted just a little bit of happiness!
    I would have wished the movie weren't so black, but I don't regret seeing it.

    Both motion pictures were very well made and their actors deserve all praise.

    What is the motivation in making such a film?,especially a story where one can predict it the whole way through,then you are just watching it for the acting at that point.
    I think that cinema in America has in part taken the role that journalism and TV have neglected - to show up grievances in a over-commercialised society, to show what it looks like if you lose, to remind that losers have faces, names, lives. There is a lot of grief and dirt and the media often just plaster it over and give you the "sexier" message that all is fine. At least those media that heavily depend on commericيals tend to avoid such things, because NIKE, Coca Cola, Sony and all the others don't want to be associated with "depressing" content.
    Movies (and license-financed TV, by the way) are much more independent.
    Last edited by L'Etranger; 02-22-2007, 01:25 AM.

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  • Mespheber
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    One Million Dollar Baby is a love story. the topic is: this is what a man is ready to stand when he loves a woman. One of my favourite Eastwood.

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