Rambo IV

[Dreamweaver]

Filming begins in January under the working title Eyes of the Cobra.

Plot is along the lines of Killing Saddam and capturing Bin Laden. Ready yourselves for the comedy hit of 2007. I'm really looking to this. Haven't seen a Stallone film at the cinema since Rocky IV, a day that I shall never forget for pure raw emotion.

[Kipper]

Filming begins in January under the working title Eyes of the Cobra.
Haven't seen a Stallone film at the cinema since Rocky IV, a day that I shall never forget for pure raw emotion.

Well, you wouldn't remember it for the acting! Or was it the body count you enjoyed? The Elric movie should have a higher one
Do you know why that title is being considered? Is Rambo going to be genetically altered, by the simple process of an injection of king cobra stem cells, to allow him to slither into underground bolt holes and caves unseen? Maybe he'll be able to change into a big rubber suit, that would certainly enhance the film imho.

A big rubber suit with a red headband that is, of course. I know sly is very careful about his image!

[devilchicken]

Some quotes from a Stallone interview about Rambo IV. Rambo as... anti-hero...

Rambo is a character that I think was not fully expressed in the last one," said Stallone. "Even though Afghanistan was the downfall, it was Russia's Vietnam. What happened was it was about 10 days before the movie came out, Gorbachev comes over and basically kisses Nancy Reagan on the cheek and the cold war, 50 years later, is over and now I'm the bad guy. It's true. Why are you red bater? I said two weeks ago we were dropping bombs on these guys. So any time you do a film that deals with a political subject, you don't know, even though I'm doing it again. It's extremely volatile. But, yeah it would just be Rambo because it's a character I think that is completely out of sync with the way things are. He's so primitive and he's so broken, his spirit, that he lives this monastic life out on the jungle. I think it's an interesting character study. I haven't seen anything like it lately."

"I wouldn't say this is a veteran's journey. It's more like the veteran mentality of the Vietnam War, which is juxtaposition today. The soldiers today I think are vastly different. A different breed. I think they're a little bit more aware. The other guys are a bit more naïve, and they went head-long into these crazy situations. Look at the death toll. 52,000 and by today's standards that's unbelievable. A quarter of a million suicides after that from people who were damaged by the war. It's just in his attitude and his demeanor that you know he's still quite distraught by what he's been through, but yet he can't escape it, damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't."

[devilchicken]

An update on the title. It sounds like an absolute turkey...

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Get Ready for "John Rambo"
Posted by Scott Weinberg on Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2007, 12:35 AM

Scott Weinberg writes: "Now that his "Rocky Balboa" has come and gone -- and turned out to be a pretty well-received comeback piece -- Sylvester Stallone is busy putting some touches on his next comeback piece, a little with the official title of ... "John Rambo."

Nope, not "Rambo 4," "Pearl of the Cobra," or "In the Serpent's Eye" (whatever that means), but "John Rambo," because obviously the only reason "Rocky 6" made any money is because it was called "Rocky Balboa."

I'm a bit more skeptical about the return of Rambo than I was about the return of Balboa, and here's why: Rocky is an underdog whose story could take place anywhere at any time; John Rambo, on the other hand, is firmly stuck in the '80s. But hey, I'd love to be proven wrong. I did enjoy "Rocky Balboa" a bit more than I expected to...

[redbeard]

Stallone got held up at customs over here in Oz, due to something he had with him. Hopefully it was the reels for Rocky Balboa and John Rambo, and those good customs people destroyed them.

[L'Etranger]

In an interview Stallone pretty convincingly explained how he meanwhile things differently of the Rambo movies and that he was bound by contracts to do the last one.

Also Rocky IV is being reviewed as a surprisingly good and intelligent movie. I just don't care enough for the boxer world to go and see it. Eastwood's "Million Dollar Baby" was the once in a decade exception I made.

[Mespheber]

I can't wait for Rambo XXIII: Stallone on a wheelchair and a machine gun.

[devilchicken]

In an interview Stallone pretty convincingly explained how he meanwhile things differently of the Rambo movies and that he was bound by contracts to do the last one.

Also Rocky IV is being reviewed as a surprisingly good and intelligent movie. I just don't care enough for the boxer world to go and see it. Eastwood's "Million Dollar Baby" was the once in a decade exception I made.

We saw Million Dollar Baby - along with House of Sand & Fog one of the most depressing movies ever.

One thing bothered me about it was Clint Eastwood's character seemed somewhat patronising.

He tells Hillary Swank not to become a boxer because she'll get hurt, twists his arm to help her (against his wishes) and lo and behold she becomes a quadriplegic. That always struck me as a bit of "I told you so" and "daddy knows best"

[lemec]

We saw Million Dollar Baby - along with House of Sand & Fog one of the most depressing movies ever.

One thing bothered me about it was Clint Eastwood's character seemed somewhat patronising to me.

He tells Hillary Swank not to bother because she'll get hurt, twists his arm to help her (against his wishes) and then she ends up becoming a quadriplegic. That always struck me as a bit of "daddy knows best"

I am not sure the reason behind the necessity of making a movie like Million Dollar Baby. It is not really art or entertainment,is it?

I am just not getting it, I guess. It's just that I feel there have been many stories that are of the same sad nature.

I could see if the movie was biographical,or showed Swank enjoying her life more,then at the very end have the "accident" in the ring happen, they could have went over to pull or not to pull the plug briefly,then do it and end the movie, not too great of a movie,many similar things have already been filmed,I think.

Perhaps I don't like movies too close to reality? -but that never bothered me with war movies,I watch ones that are historical and there is many bad things in them,things that happen to the people,hmmm.

What is the motivation in making such a film?,especially a story where one can predict it the whole way through,then you are just watching it for the acting at that point.

Never went much for these types,but I like Clint Eastwood,and I like to give all movies a chance,I would give credit where credit is due, but I won't praise him for this particular film.

Now White Hunter Black Heart was about the first movie for Clint to go far away from his action heroes,and that one turned out pretty good,I thought.

I can't wait to see both of Eastwood's WWII movies,though!

I like straight history,without bending things and without the ficion thrown in with the real stuff,unless of course it is that type of film,where it is a fiction story with the backdrop of the war.

I much enjoy seeing what the real people felt and what their actions were during the conflict.

House of Sand of Fog-a little more interesting,very depressing.

At least in a movie like "American History X" there is something to be learned from it, somehing that applies to life more than other films that end badly.

Anyway, I'll talk more later,hehe!

Thanks!

[devilchicken]

I can't wait for Rambo XXIII: Stallone on a wheelchair and a machine gun.

Why do I think Hambo would be a more appropriate title...

[Mespheber]

One Million Dollar Baby is a love story. the topic is: this is what a man is ready to stand when he loves a woman. One of my favourite Eastwood.

[L'Etranger]

Well, if you expect a classical drama among boxers, only a female variant, then you are bound to be disappointed. Indeed, Million Dollar Baby is a love story and a strong statement about a person's freedom of choice. And it is very well made.

House of Sand & Fog is discouraging look at human behaviour. How disparate perceptions of your opposite's motives can be, how tragic! Both parties wanted just a little bit of happiness!
I would have wished the movie weren't so black, but I don't regret seeing it.

Both motion pictures were very well made and their actors deserve all praise.

What is the motivation in making such a film?,especially a story where one can predict it the whole way through,then you are just watching it for the acting at that point.

I think that cinema in America has in part taken the role that journalism and TV have neglected - to show up grievances in a over-commercialised society, to show what it looks like if you lose, to remind that losers have faces, names, lives. There is a lot of grief and dirt and the media often just plaster it over and give you the "sexier" message that all is fine. At least those media that heavily depend on commericيals tend to avoid such things, because NIKE, Coca Cola, Sony and all the others don't want to be associated with "depressing" content.
Movies (and license-financed TV, by the way) are much more independent.

[lemec]

Well, if you expect a classical drama among boxers, only a female variant, then you are bound to be disappointed. Indeed, Million Dollar Baby is a love story and a strong statement about a person's freedom of choice. And it is very well made.

House of Sand & Fog is discouraging look at human behaviour. How disparate perceptions of your opposite's motives can be, how tragic! Both parties wanted just a little bit of happiness!
I would have wished the movie weren't so black, but I don't regret seeing it.

Both motion pictures were very well made and their actors deserve all praise.

I think that cinema in America has in part taken the role that journalism and TV have neglected - to show up grievances in a over-commercialised society, to show what it looks like if you lose, to remind that losers have faces, names, lives. There is a lot of grief and dirt and the media often just plaster it over and give you the "sexier" message that all is fine. At least those media that heavily depend on commericيals tend to avoid such things, because NIKE, Coca Cola, Sony and all the others don't want to be associated with "depressing" content.
Movies (and license-financed TV, by the way) are much more independent.

L'Etranger,

Ah! Good point. It is more clear to me now.

I guess it is just hard for us to see suffering,even if it is fictional.

-but,I do see things in a new light now,better understanding,I suppose that is why I watch movies,like that, that I know will be sad and want to see the art and message in them.

[DeeCrowSeer]

As a slightly biased Michelle Rodriguez fan, I'd put in a plug for Girl Fight here. Like L'E I don't really have much interest in boxing, but this film was more about a young woman dealing with the anger inside her, and trying to find a focus for that rage, as well as slightly more healthy outlet for it. There's also a romantic element to the story, and the self-empowerment angle. It predates Million Dollar Baby, but I'm not trying to imply anything by saying that! It struck me as an inspiring film, although all the workout scenes made me feel very fat and lazy... which I am, so I guess I only have myself to blame...

[johneffay]

I can't wait for Rambo XXIII: Stallone on a wheelchair and a machine gun.

Robo-Rambo: They could CGI his face onto a cyborg body.

Come to think of it, I would probably go to see that...