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    So I fire up AOL and what do my weary eyes behold but the headline:

    'Narnia' Hopes to Fill the Void Left By 'Rings'

    8O Good lord. They're making a Narnia movie. Three, in fact.

    Quote from moviefone article: "With 'Lord of the Rings' now just a magnificent memory and 'Star Wars' wrapping up, how are diehard fantasy fans supposed to fill that gaping hole in their lives?"

    Friends, that Elric movie needs to get made, and soon.
    "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
    --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

  • #2
    Well, let's think positive...
    Not so long ago, the only "fantasy" movie available was Willow... At least, and probably thanks to LotR, we'll be able to watch plenty of these, and what the Hell if some are crap !
    To answer TheAdlerian, I'd rather fight the boredom with a half-good (even a quarter-good) fantasy movie than with a half-stupid (even quarter-stupid) basic action movie. But I admit I won't be followed by the whole world in there

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    • #3
      Something to keep the Christians happy. Unless it's a porno version.
      \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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      • #4
        Personally, it seems like Narnia is following in the footsteps of Neverending Story, Harry Potter, etc, rather than LOTR and SW. Not that either of the latter are uber-mature, but at least there is an adult element. Narnia books were great when I was a kid, until I realized they were secret christian propaganda. I'd rather see Earthsea adapted than Narnia....

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        • #5
          Well guys, Tolkien was definitely a Christian, and the Lord of the Rings is bloody full of Christian elements (plenty of things have been written on that by LotR geeks as crazy as we are Moorkock's in this forum), but it's still a story of big hairy feet... :roll:

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          • #6
            Perhaps after we get through these young adult movies, we will then get something by MM, and then maybe Leiber, and Zelazny?

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            • #7
              I remember when Fellowship of the Ring came out and the news media was saying that it was in the tradtion of Harry Potter that came out a month before. They really did not do too much research on that one.

              I fear what the news is going to say about Elric when it is made, I hope they at least get someone on there that knows what their talking about.

              I don't mind them making bad fantasy movies for children just as long as they make the good ones too for everybody else.

              I was so embarrassed when that Dungeon & Dragons movie came out, now that gave fantasy adventure a bad name, that actually did harm I think to the fantasy and sci-fi world.

              It all just gets so frustrating at times!


              I probaly will see Narnia though,just for fun and out of curiousity.

              "With a deep, not-unhappy sigh, Elric prepared to do battle with an army." (Red Pearls)
              - Michael Moorcock

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              • #8
                I'm avoiding cheap DVD sets of the recent Earthsea series, like the plague. I've read the disclaimers from Ursula K. LeGuin and I enjoyed the trilogy so much, when I was a kid, that I wouldn't pay good money for such an, alleged, whitebread travesty.

                I'll wait until it turns up on one of the Dutch commercial channels, vivisected by porno-adverts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lemec
                  I was so embarrassed when that Dungeon & Dragons movie came out, now that gave fantasy adventure a bad name, that actually did harm I think to the fantasy and sci-fi world.
                  The only comment that sticks in my mind about this movie was one that I over-heard from a random passerby as I was leaving the cinema. "Well, that was a good advert for LotR..."

                  I don't know how bad/good the Narnia movies will be, but the small trailer that I caught a glimpse of looked visually impressive. Although I haven't read the books for over ten years, I still have fond memories of the BBC dramatisation from the late 80s. I'll go see the first one out of nostalgia more than anything.

                  Originally posted by PsychicWarVeteran
                  Friends, that Elric movie needs to get made, and soon.
                  I agree, otherwise the Fantasy & SF genre is going to flooded by a rash of children's movies. I don't mind children's movies but I'm getting a little old to be entertained by them. The last thing I want to see is my favourite genre being overrun by an army of small wizards with a passion for Ziggy Stardust make-up :)

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                  • #10
                    Only good thing about Narnia was Tom Baker was in one of those films, besides, it didn't hold my attention.

                    Elric needs to get made, the only fantasy films being made are geared toward young adults with those same, cliqued coming of age and friendship tales I hate so much. Narnia, is not my biggest concern,"Eldest" is. Christopher Paolini's blunder trash of LOTRS and Star Wars is already being made into a film, and the book isn't even 5 yrs old! It saddens me that only until now is there a possibility of a John Carter of Mars film being made, but knowing Hollywood, they'll screw up this beloved classic as well. No doubt by stripping John Carter's Southern etiquette/ethnocentricism made him such a hero on Mars and favor a modern man in the 21rst Century. :yuck:

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                    • #11
                      Just saw it yesterday. Had to, daughter nآ°2 wanted to see it.
                      It is really a LOTR-light, okay for 8 to 11. Another three hours in which people get fatter on the popcorn and Coke they consume. Not anything important, nothing breath-taking. Tilda Swinton who you see far too seldom is worth seeing, but that doesn't fully recompensate. A daughter who is content does, however.
                      It wil be forgotten, "Simba" of the "Lion King" will remain longer in one's memory than ever worried-looking "Aslan".
                      Google ergo sum

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                      • #12
                        hmmm, I guess I will go see 'Narnia' then since there is nothing else out for the holidays for a family. I'll probaly see it this week. It sounds like it's an ok film. After that and King Kong, there is nothing much out there for awhile, I don't think there will be any interesting movies out there for 2006, except V for Vendetta of course,hehe. ;)

                        "With a deep, not-unhappy sigh, Elric prepared to do battle with an army." (Red Pearls)
                        - Michael Moorcock

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                        • #13
                          I just had to see it after seeing the trailer which featured a computer generated beaver with Ray Winstone's voice ;)

                          I quite liked the movie although I found myself disliking some of the child actors. The kid who played Peter was a right toff (he was on Conan O'Brien the other night), the sort of kid who'd get himself beaten up in the changing rooms if he found himself in a regular UK comprehensive
                          Batman: It's a low neighborhood, full of rumpots. They're used to curious sights, which they attribute to alcoholic delusions.

                          Robin: Gosh, drink is sure a filthy thing, isn't it? I'd rather be dead than unable to trust my own eyes!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by devilchicken
                            I just had to see it after seeing the trailer which featured a computer generated beaver with Ray Winstone's voice ;)

                            I quite liked the movie although I found myself disliking some of the child actors. The kid who played Peter was a right toff (he was on Conan O'Brien the other night), the sort of kid who'd get himself beaten up in the changing rooms if he found himself in a regular UK comprehensive
                            Ray Winstone! I thought there was something familiar about the voice--Will Scarlet.

                            I was fond of the girl who played Lucy, simply because she was freakishly adorable--just want to pinch those cheeks. The other kids...Edmund wasn't as bratty as he was in the book; I got the impression that they were trying to soften his Judas-like betrayal, by showing him simply being willful by going back for the photo of their dad. Though, it never seemed fair, considering it wasn't his fault that the witch was the first person he encountered in Narnia. If I were an early teen who was being offered sweets and a bare-shoulder cuddle with a hot lady...well, icy-hot. Though I'd rather have brownies than Turkish Delight; it's like eating a bouquet. Too much use of the Deus Ex Machina, as well, with Father Christmas conveniently giving them appropriate gifts. And the jerks didn't even ask for anything for Ed. Oh, and it seemed heavy handed that they gave Ed black hair, as if to imply he's the bad one because, you know, nudge nudge, wink wink, the color black=evil; what an exceedingly weak visual metaphor.

                            I also thought seeing Peter in that battle via live action put a harsh light on how green and unfit he was for battle, even more so than on the page; but then I recall a photo my father showed me a few years ago of his older brother in his uniform taken when having just arrived home after his tour in Europe, and he looked like a baby-faced teen, much too innocent for war (my father, also in the pic, was a about four or five).

                            Tilda was compelling and ferocious in her role. It helps when actors take fantasy seriously. She definately gave the impression that she could kick some major booty.

                            The look of the film itself was inconsistent; many of the scenes were too static and stagey, the characters constantly standing in a line in a near-tableau, and some of it was lovely, with the Art Nouveau styling of Tumnus's cave, and Jadis's throne room and sleigh--speaking of which, Nouveau inspired style is becoming ubiquitous in recent fantasy films. They used it in Rivendell and Lothlorien in LOTR, and they used it in Children of Dune (also starring the gentleman who portrayed Tumnus) I imagine we'll see it in the Elric movie if they enlist Amano to help with the design. They should use Amano and Gould the way they used Howe and Lee for LOTR. I digress...The cgi was startling in some parts (the gryphon's were convincing), and dodgy in others. The centaurs were believable, but their upper-body style looked too much like those cheesy Hercules and Xena shows of the late 90s.

                            Good to see some fantasy on the screen, even if it's the kid's stuff. We saw it tonight at a late viewing, and several people brought crying babies, as if they'd be interested in this movie. One woman gave her baby a rattle, which was distracting loud in the cavernous Cinerama Theater here...

                            I assumed that they made the wargs in LOTR look less like wolves and more like hyena so as not to imply that wolves are inherently evil, but I guess they couldn't avoid it here.

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                            • #15
                              Oops! That last post was mine--forgot to log in.

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