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'Performance' (1970) : A Jerry Cornelius Film?

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  • Marca
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    Somehow, I've missed this thread completely up to now. Very interesting reading, must give Performance another watch.

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  • goldeneye
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    Very well said. As one progresses in life, serendipities, synchronicities and wish lists somehow tend to come together in magical ways so that, when I decided a few years back on what you have stated your own feeling is, I did not then know about Gold Diggers of '77 originally having been titled 'The Great Rock and Roll Swindle'.

    Similarly, picking up on threads left by our friend Baal in this whole discussion (his correspondence with MM back in 2003), I have also come to note on a different thread to this one that he had, then seemed to be maing wishful, fanciful connects between authors, writers, musicians (Mike, Iain Sinclair, Stewart Home, Michael K, M.John Harrison) which, since have come into effect. (I want to write more about this topic and the details I've just mentioned but apologies meanwhile for any vagueness).

    I guess what I'm trying to get at is that strange 'Philip. K.Dick' unease one gets when people who once looked at you quizically about an idea you had for linking things together, years later seem to (have) be(en) cognissant all along.
    So as I once was considered a bit strange for saying that 'Performance' was a Cornelius movie, now I am reading about occult connections (Cammell/Anger/Crowley) which return to JC via a crowleyan scholar I've recently discovered whose birth name is Jerry Cornelius.

    But it's late and I'm rambling...

    I do enjoy this thread though and have come back to it many times.

    Originally posted by Anton View Post
    I've never been in any doubt that Performance is most certainly A Jerry Cornelius film.... Its sequel of course was The Great Rock n Roll Swindle.

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  • Anton
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    I've never been in any doubt that Performance is most certainly A Jerry Cornelius film. Set somewhere between The Final Programme, Dead Singers and A Cure for Cancer. There are analogues for all the recurring characters from the Cornelius Mise en scene in the movie. See if you can spot them. The film makers would not have to have been aware they were making a Cornelius movie for it to be one. I'm sure Mr. Moorcock will agree that there was some heavy Rock n roll ju ju goin down in Ladbroke Grove in them days. Its sequel of course was The Great Rock n Roll Swindle.
    Last edited by Anton; 06-17-2010, 11:43 AM.

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  • The English Assassin
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    Originally posted by Reinart der Fuchs View Post
    Excellent necro-bump Lem!
    Necro-bump! What an excellent turn of phrase!

    But, yes, good necro-bump... I agree that Performance has many parallels with Jerry Cornelius. My feelings on Performance are mixed. I love the first half, which I consider to be far more psychedelic and experimental in its use of cutting and editing than the later 'trippy' stuff which is actually far more conventionally shot and edited. Indeed, I find the second half utterly dull... although I can't stand Mick Jagger, especially as an actor, so I am biased...

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  • lemec
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    Originally posted by Pietro_Mercurios View Post
    I watched the last episode of 'Ashes to Ashes', last night. If you've seen it. You'll know why I feel a bit damned, today.

    I had the Devil's luck, tonight.

    I headed for Utrecht, today. taking with me, only two MP3 players, a copy of, Terry Pratchett's 'Monstrous Regiment' and Mike's, 'Book of Martyrs'.

    I couldn't find a copy of, 'Reasons to Be Cheerful', about Barney Bubbles, or part 6, of 'Buffy: Season Eight'. Although, I looked quite hard.

    Then I probably smoked too much, drank too much beer and bought too many books.

    Which books?

    A copy of, 'The Laughter of Carthage', by Mike.
    A copy of, The Yiddish Policeman's Union, by Michael Chabon.
    Both from the, 'The Slegte'.

    Then I bought a couple of the most recent editions of, 'Eppo', the, bi-weekly, Dutch, adult, comic magazine. I follow the new adventures of, 'Storm' and 'Haas', a Jewish resistance leader, disguised as a Protestant minister, in occupied Holland.

    After that, I went a bit mad and bought,
    'Mephisto', by Klaus Mann.
    'Love On The Dole', by Walter Greenwood.
    And a copy of,
    ' Marco Polo: The Travels'.

    I felt great. Bought some more beer.

    Then, on the way back from one kreug. I popped into a specialist videotheek.

    They didn't have, 'The Final Programme' and they only had, 'Performance', on tape. But, I did pick up a BFI DVD copy of Jean Luc Goddard's, 'one Plus One' ('Sympathy For The Devil').

    I felt even better. I drank some more. Spoke in various tongues. Howled musical encouragement at the saxophonist of a blues band and headed for home.

    I'm watching it now.

    I will probably suffer for it, in the morning.

    I would have liked to have been along for that adventure!

    Sounds like fun!

    How do you like Book of Martyrs so far?

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  • Pietro_Mercurios
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    'One Plus One' is all very Situationist and also v.pretentious, I might add.

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  • Pietro_Mercurios
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    I watched the last episode of 'Ashes to Ashes', last night. If you've seen it. You'll know why I feel a bit damned, today.

    I had the Devil's luck, tonight.

    I headed for Utrecht, today. taking with me, only two MP3 players, a copy of, Terry Pratchett's 'Monstrous Regiment' and Mike's, 'Book of Martyrs'.

    I couldn't find a copy of, 'Reasons to Be Cheerful', about Barney Bubbles, or part 6, of 'Buffy: Season Eight'. Although, I looked quite hard.

    Then I probably smoked too much, drank too much beer and bought too many books.

    Which books?

    A copy of, 'The Laughter of Carthage', by Mike.
    A copy of, The Yiddish Policeman's Union, by Michael Chabon.
    Both from the, 'The Slegte'.

    Then I bought a couple of the most recent editions of, 'Eppo', the, bi-weekly, Dutch, adult, comic magazine. I follow the new adventures of, 'Storm' and 'Haas', a Jewish resistance leader, disguised as a Protestant minister, in occupied Holland.

    After that, I went a bit mad and bought,
    'Mephisto', by Klaus Mann.
    'Love On The Dole', by Walter Greenwood.
    And a copy of,
    ' Marco Polo: The Travels'.

    I felt great. Bought some more beer.

    Then, on the way back from one kreug. I popped into a specialist videotheek.

    They didn't have, 'The Final Programme' and they only had, 'Performance', on tape. But, I did pick up a BFI DVD copy of Jean Luc Goddard's, 'one Plus One' ('Sympathy For The Devil').

    I felt even better. I drank some more. Spoke in various tongues. Howled musical encouragement at the saxophonist of a blues band and headed for home.

    I'm watching it now.

    I will probably suffer for it, in the morning.

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  • lemec
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    Thanks, Reinart!

    I keep things in my mind for a long time, then suddenly I decide to check something out, out of the blue, like finding this movie.

    I have all sorts of plans and ideas of things to do, to be performed when the time is right. Until then, I store all this fantastic forum information. It's a real education too see all these views, thoughts, subjects and art forms.

    A real pleasure!

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  • Reinart der Fuchs
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    Excellent necro-bump Lem!

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  • lemec
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    I watched this film last night. Very interesting indeed. A real weird one!

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  • Mikey_C
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    Oh well - originality is an overrated virtue in these post-modern days! Fascinating post from MM there. I didn't realise that "The White Hotel" was plagiarised. Always found it a bit dodgy though. Fancy Jagger finding JC "too freaky"... Might have mucked up some of his parties with the aristos, I guess. There's a man with a foot in every camp.

    Donald Cammell, though. What a tragedy. :(

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  • Pietro_Mercurios
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    Originally posted by Mikey_C
    It certainly is an intriguing theory, and completely original as far as I'm aware.

    ...
    Well, as Baal's correspondence with Mr M. shows, it's not really such an original theory.

    [broken link]

    :)
    Last edited by Rothgo; 04-21-2010, 02:52 PM.

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  • Mikey_C
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    It certainly is an intriguing theory, and completely original as far as I'm aware.

    I just spoke to my partner on the 'phone about the end of the film - she suggested the idea of the doppelganger - if you meet your double it means death.

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  • Pietro_Mercurios
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    Originally posted by Mikey_C
    ...

    PS Reminds me of the arguments I have used to have about Bladerunner before the Director's Cut came out. Aren't some great chunks of Performance supposed to be missing as well? Buried under a motorway no doubt, or lurking in someone's shed! :lol:
    Canned for two years and chopped to shreds. Some of the sex scenes were so hot the film lab refused to process them and destroyed, or dumped them.

    If I remember right, some of the footage between Jagger and Pallenberg turned up at an Amsterdam Porno festival and won a prize.

    At least 4 different versions of the film have done the rounds, depending on whether for TV, or cinema release and on which country.

    What's posted above about Chas and Turner would fit Frank and Jerry without too much trouble. I'm not suggesting that 'Performance' is a straight take on the adventures of Jerry Cornelius, but that the adventures of Jerry Cornelius helped inform and shape the movie.

    Bold claim, I know. :)

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  • Mikey_C
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    Well, I'm not the only one who's confused:
    K(enneth) A(nger): Uh-huh. [He points to the face on the cover photo.] This is my friend, Donald Cammell. Committed suicide. He directed Performance (1970). And the reason I chose him to play Osiris, the God of Death, was because he was always threatening suicide. And finally he did it. He blew his head off. Have you seen the film Performance?

    CR: Yes.

    KA: Well, you remember at the end Turner shoots himself in the head. And so finally Donald did it. And Donald wrote the script, and co-directed it with his photographer [Nicholas Roeg].
    http://www.ratso.net/anger.html
    Perhaps this just strengthens my view that
    I see Chas and Turner as being essentially the same
    :?: Demon Brother and all the rest of it? What's your theory?

    PS Reminds me of the arguments I have used to have about Bladerunner before the Director's Cut came out. Aren't some great chunks of Performance supposed to be missing as well? Buried under a motorway no doubt, or lurking in someone's shed! :lol:

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