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  • #16
    Then there's poet, author & WWI veteran, Robert Graves' only (as far as I know), venture into SF: Seven Days in New Crete. It's a sort of extrapolation of Graves' highly speculative & weirdly plausible, The White Goddess. Just what might an alternative, Goddess worshipping, matriarchal, anarchist utopia look like?

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    • #17
      Do Gene Wolfe's Solar Cycle count?
      "From time to time I demonstrate the inconceivable, or mock the innocent, or give truth to liars, or shred the poses of virtue.(...) Now I am silent; this is my mood." From Sundrun's Garden, Jack Vance.
      "As the Greeks have created the Olympus based upon their own image and resemblance, we have created Gotham City and Metropolis and all these galaxies so similar to the corporate world, manipulative, ruthless and well paid, that conceived them." Braulio Tavares.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by zlogdan View Post
        Do Gene Wolfe's Solar Cycle count?
        Yes, the case for this could be made Zlogdan.

        The epic saga of Severian the Torturer for all its digressions (other tales embedded within the main narrative) follows the familiar structure of basic myth making; a hero's journey that finds a climactic reveal in the protagonist achieving the status and role of a Messiah

        Of course, the same claim could at a stretch be given to Frank Herbert's Dune Saga with the only real difference lying in that a flawed Messiah is the father of a vastly more powerful successor; non-human and seemingly immortal.

        (My apologies for the spoilers but i can't seem to find any masking tags in the toolbar!)
        Last edited by Kymba334; 09-08-2020, 01:00 PM.
        Mwana wa simba ni simba

        The child of a lion is also a lion - Swahili Wisdom

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        • #19
          I read the Dune volumes 2-6 some time ago, they were really fantastic and mind-blowing. For many years I was satisfied reading the first one over and over, but in the end curiosity got the better of me and I had to get the whole story. Number 4 in particular, God Emperor of Dune, was just perfect in a crazy kind of way, and totally unexpected. I know I am probably in the minority here but to me it's the best in the whole series :)

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          • #20
            Yeah...
            Children and God Emperor were the two I didn’t care for. All I can figure is that I really dislike the character of Leto 2.

            ive got all the Brian Herbert books but I’ve not read very many yet. been too busy reading other things.
            "Self-discipline and self-knowledge are the key. An individual becomes a unique universe, able to move at will through all the scales of the multiverse - potentially able to control the immediate reality of every scale, every encountered environment."
            --Contessa Rose von Bek, Blood part 4, chapter 12

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rothgo View Post
              I vaguely remember Alastair Reynolds being stridently anti-Christian. Phillip Pullman too. Whether you like that vibe is up to you!
              Maybe that is why I liked the film a lot. It has been said that the Golden Compass film had the anti-Christianism watered down or moved out completely. But anyway, I tried to read the book but I did not continue because I liked the film so much.
              "From time to time I demonstrate the inconceivable, or mock the innocent, or give truth to liars, or shred the poses of virtue.(...) Now I am silent; this is my mood." From Sundrun's Garden, Jack Vance.
              "As the Greeks have created the Olympus based upon their own image and resemblance, we have created Gotham City and Metropolis and all these galaxies so similar to the corporate world, manipulative, ruthless and well paid, that conceived them." Braulio Tavares.

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              • #22
                Dune: I read the first book and loved it. Parts 2 and 3 were good but I didn't like the 4th book at all.

                Lord Of Light: I love this book.

                My previously referenced Gene Wolfe's Solar Cycle is my favorite. It is my all-time 12 books saga.😀
                Last edited by zlogdan; 09-09-2020, 09:30 AM.
                "From time to time I demonstrate the inconceivable, or mock the innocent, or give truth to liars, or shred the poses of virtue.(...) Now I am silent; this is my mood." From Sundrun's Garden, Jack Vance.
                "As the Greeks have created the Olympus based upon their own image and resemblance, we have created Gotham City and Metropolis and all these galaxies so similar to the corporate world, manipulative, ruthless and well paid, that conceived them." Braulio Tavares.

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                • #23
                  Childhood's end by Clarke

                  My review on Goodreads
                  I have just watched the SyFy miniseries which has inevitably made me remember the book that I read when I was 13 and it was, back then, the very first science fiction book I ever read so I cannot deny that reading it made me what I am today and that it had introduced me to the science fiction world.

                  Albeit mesmerized by the book as a kid, I today see it as a very flawed, bleak, and disgusting book that merely served to please the fantasies of Arthur Clarke and his objections towards religion. It is a simple book permeated by a so-called "mature, wise" rational view. Now that I am old enough I can understand which were the aims of Clarke: a simple philosophical treat into rationalism with mild condemnation of parents ( something Clarke never was ) for caring for their children.

                  In the end, the overlords are mere "Silver surfers" and the being that feeds on earth energy, which is "Galactus". Very deep right?
                  "From time to time I demonstrate the inconceivable, or mock the innocent, or give truth to liars, or shred the poses of virtue.(...) Now I am silent; this is my mood." From Sundrun's Garden, Jack Vance.
                  "As the Greeks have created the Olympus based upon their own image and resemblance, we have created Gotham City and Metropolis and all these galaxies so similar to the corporate world, manipulative, ruthless and well paid, that conceived them." Braulio Tavares.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by zlogdan View Post
                    Dune: I read the first book and loved it. Parts 2 and 3 were good but I didn't like it at all.
                    I know Mike has said he never liked Dune or what Herbert was working toward with the novel/series, but it has been and remains one of my personal favorites. What I like about its take on religion is how it shows the danger of blind faith, how it can be manipulated, and the destructive tendencies in cults of personality.

                    Incidentally, the first trailer for Denis Villeneuve's DUNE (2020) just dropped a few hours ago. It makes me cautiously optimistic that we may finally get a worthy film adaptation.
                    "In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro"
                    --Thomas a Kempis

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