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Marca

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Vengeance Of Rome proof on ebay

09-18-2005, 02:03 PM

A proof copy of Vengeance Of Rome is currently up on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Michael-Moorco...QQcmdZViewItem

I put some bids in to test the water and the price is currently آ£13.99 with nine days to go. I think I'll wait for the official publication...

'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)
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GuyLawley

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#2

09-18-2005, 02:15 PM

Well spotted, AV.

Tempting, tempting... !
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#3

09-18-2005, 02:34 PM

Well, not to sound too toffee-nosed, they are not supposed to be sold and I only got mine this past week!

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09-21-2005, 02:38 AM

The trouble is, they do get sold. Publishers don't really like it, but short of stopping issuing proofs, they can't really do much about it. Some people (if I'm honest, especially lowly-paid booksellers) are always going to decide they need the extra cash more than they need the goodwill of an author they're probably never going to meet.

Not that I'm trying to defend it, mind you - but having been there, I can sort of understand it.

My proof of Vengeance, on the other hand, is sitting waiting for me to finish book 3, which I only started today, so it'll gather dust for a week or two. Apologies to all those who are now cursing me for letting it go to waste!

Marcus

PS Mike, I met your (Cape) editor briefly last week - he seemed very excited about the book (I know that is his job, but still...) and gave me some hints about what was going to happen to Pyat. It sounds like fun, I must say!
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09-21-2005, 02:51 AM

The Vengeance Of Rome ebay auction got cancelled a couple of days ago. Mysterious... :D

'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)
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#6

09-21-2005, 02:57 AM

I thought an auction couldn't be cancelled if there were bids on it.

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#7

09-21-2005, 03:05 AM

Obviously not. :)

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#8

09-21-2005, 10:15 AM

Ah - "the exception that proves the rule"! (I always wondered what the hell that was supposed to mean...) :)

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#9

09-21-2005, 01:52 PM

Well, it does say 'Not for Resale' all over the bugger! Someone no doubt blew a whistle.

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The Whispering Swarm: Book One of the Sanctuary of the White Friars - The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction
Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds

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The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses
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#10

09-21-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Michael Moorcock

Well, it does say 'Not for Resale' all over the bugger! Someone no doubt blew a whistle.

And so they should! It's one thing making money out of books which have gone out of print, but profiteering on advance copies is taking the piss.
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#11

09-29-2005, 01:21 AM

Here's another one.
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#12

09-29-2005, 03:07 AM

You didn't include the address. I think ebay should be alerted, though.
Maybe that's what happened to the last one. They're usually pretty responsibile about such things. I know a couple of cases where proofs haven't arrived at the person to whom they were addressed. Could these be being stolen within the postal system, I wonder ? Has happened before. Though it hardly seems worth it! Maybe reps leaving the proofs with booksellers and assistants snaffling them ?

Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in Europe:
The Whispering Swarm: Book One of the Sanctuary of the White Friars - The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction
Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds

Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in the USA:
The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses
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#13

09-29-2005, 03:22 AM

After all the legal kerfuffle, with prosecutions, over pre-publication copies of the last Harry Potter book, perhaps companies like E-Bay are beginning to get more sensitive to the appearance of what could very well be stolen, or at the very least improperly acquired for sale, property, on their sites?
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#14

09-29-2005, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by Michael Moorcock

You didn't include the address.

I embedded it in the text. Here it is in the raw:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Vengeance-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Pietro_Mercurios

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#15

09-29-2005, 05:09 AM

If it's still up there, perhaps the publishers could twist a little publicity out of this one, by going to the media, threatening prosecution and heaping all sorts of horrors on the heads of E-Bay and the seller?

It worked for JK Rowling and Bob Geldof.
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