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The 'é' in Melniboné?

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  • Theocrat
    Eternal Companion
    • Dec 2003
    • 771

    The 'é' in Melniboné?

    Mel-ni-bo-nay! Alotta people don't get that. I wonder if Mike has had any problems with people saying "mel-ni-bone" instead.
  • PsychicWarVeteran
    Flesh Bag of Mostly Water
    • Mar 2004
    • 2554

    #2
    Resumأ©, Attachأ©, Fiancأ©...

    ...Melnibonأ©
    "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
    --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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    • DeepFixer
      Eternal Champion
      • Dec 2003
      • 2249

      #3
      Hearing Mr. M pronounce it on Hawkwind's 'Live Chronicles,' it's Mel-NI-bo-nay
      Madness is always the best armor against Reality

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      • MissDreamy
        Citizen of Tanelorn
        • Mar 2004
        • 204

        #4
        How's about Marylebone?

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        • Wizard
          Sailor on the Seas of Fate
          • Jun 2004
          • 52

          #5
          Oops, i always say Melnibonй :oops: Dammit!!! :D

          MissDreamy, why "Maryle..."?

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          • L'Etranger
            Veteran Moorcockista
            • Dec 2003
            • 4772

            #6
            Wizard: Marylebone - that's a station on a UK edition "Monopoly" board!
            Google ergo sum

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            • ReaveTheJust
              Denizen of Moo Uria
              • Jun 2004
              • 123

              #7
              Marylebone!!! sh*t they're closer than I thought.

              Wonder which Young Kingdom Bristols in? 8O

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              • MissDreamy
                Citizen of Tanelorn
                • Mar 2004
                • 204

                #8
                It's on the Bakerloo line on the London Underground, and yes UK Monopoly as well.... :lol: D'you know, I've never been there - passed through it many a time - perhaps I should go and investigate for any tall, slender, folk with violent tendences. Mind you there's plenty of strange folk abroad on any tube train at any time.... 8O

                MD

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                • Michael Moorcock
                  Site Host
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 14278

                  #9
                  Ted Carnell, editor of Science Fantasy, made me change the name from Eric of Marylebone because he didn't think it had enough of a fantasy feel.
                  This is what I've said recently about pronunciation. I live in a part of the world where the countries I know as Ihraq' and Ihraan are regularly pronounced Eye Rack and Eye Ran. It's only recently since old residents of Southwark (pr. Suthark by Londoners) used to call where they lived South Wark. Brits say Fen'ick for Fenwick (and most other wicks) while Americans say Fen Wick. My point -- if it sounds right to you, don't worry about it. I'm afraid I'm never going to be the kind of author who produces vast volumes of maps, lexicons, travel guides and so on to the worlds of fiction I create and while I have my own preferred forms of pronunciation of names, how you want to do it is up to you. The AudioRealm book more or less gives an idea how I'd pronounce the names, should you want to check that out!

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                  • techtor
                    Moonbeam Traveller
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Wordplay

                    My older brother lives in London, and from him I learned about saying Worcestershire as 'worse-ter-sheer' and Warwick as 'war-rick'. I wonder what the people at Fuk Mi restaurant said when answering the phone in English. The evolution of language and its usage has its amazing moments. I wonder who pronounces Yankee as "Wanker". :P

                    Eye ran sounds like the answer to the question, 'what did you do after you went to Eye-raq'.

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                    • MissDreamy
                      Citizen of Tanelorn
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 204

                      #11
                      Mind you, some of these fantasy tomes need a guide, what with such names as Gnash'ara'thrar'ne'nesh...blah, blah, la dee dah.. or something equally tedious. Books I tend to avoid like the plague! :)

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                      • Oren
                        Guardian of the Grail
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 488

                        #12
                        Ah, so we are into pronounciations now!

                        The first books I read by Mike were in Hebrew. Can you imagine English without the use of vowels? Well, this is more or less how Hebrew reads like (with the addition that P is the same letter as F and B is the same letter as V). It's especially hard when you get to names. One of my best friends had for years pronounced Frudo instead of Frodo (but it could have been Prudu as well!). There's a way around it in Hebrew - using the "Nikud" system of points - but this is rarely used in adult books.

                        Luckily, reading the books in English had helped me discover the correct pronounciations - most of the time (for Corum an Irish pronounciation guide is handy; I can even pronounce Medhbh now!).

                        What about Erekosأ«? How do you pronounce that أ«?
                        I've noticed that in "One Life Furnished in Early Moorcock" by Neil Gaiman, Erekosأ« is written as "Erikose". I guess it's just a typo?

                        I like Huw Lloyd-Langton's pronounciation of Yyrkoon in "The Sea King", although I doubt this is how Mike pornounces it.

                        By the way, Chaosium had a pronounciation guide in their Elric! (aka Stormbringer) game.

                        Cheerio,

                        Oren

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                        • Elwher
                          Honer of the Wikiverse
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 525

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Oren Douek
                          What about Erekosأ«? How do you pronounce that أ«?
                          I always pronouce it -ay like in Brontأ«, which was first Brunty then Brontأ©.
                          Statistically 6 out of 7 dwarfs are not happy.

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                          • Michael Moorcock
                            Site Host
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 14278

                            #14
                            Good point. And look at what I learned from the Brontes! Pathetic fallacy a bad thing ? Lay it on with trowels, I say!

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                            • Jerico
                              Champion of the Balance
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 1577

                              #15
                              Techtor. What is your avatar?
                              Is that some-kind of Ultraman?
                              \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
                              Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview

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