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  • Tales from Tanelorn
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    Myself, its just been around 30 years.. My Dad gave me his ERB martian books and then later some of Mike's books including Corum. Mike's connection with Hawkwind introduced me to the music to which I listen and play to this day. If I hadnt read so much when I was a youngling I might not have made it this far academically either!

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  • voilodian ghagnasdiak
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    TfT posted:
    Voilodian are also you a Brit living in Canada like myself?
    No, Im native Canadian. I've just been enthralled with Mike and Hawkwind for the past 36 years.

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  • Tales from Tanelorn
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    I agree personal taste is everything. I recall seeing the "new" Hawkwind at the Leeds Sci-Fi festival in '79 and the musical energy literally floored me, captured in Shot Down/Motorway city on Live '79. Also if the higher tone Lead sound is too much there is also Dragons and Fables and Moonglum, but I am repeating myself now.

    Voilodian are also you a Brit living in Canada like myself? Have been contemplating another move and wondering whether to attempt to gain a foothold in the land down south or head east again towards Halifax or Prince Edward Island. Agree Niagrara is great and inspiring. Also Really enjoyed visiting Lahaina on Maui this summer home of the artist Lassen. http://www.lassenart.com/flash.html
    Last edited by Tales from Tanelorn; 11-02-2006, 08:19 AM.

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  • johneffay
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    I never said he wasn't a good guitarist! He just had a tendency to play over the top of everything else. Actually, I think that the best songs he did with HW were the ones he wrote himself.

    I definitely prefer them live without him though. Horses for courses and all that...

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Well, of course I've worked with Huw both with Hawkwind and on my own stuff and there's no doubt about his musicianship. If his solos are sometimes overwhelming remember that the guys on the mixing desk are the ones who decided such things! He and Marion are both great people and we remain in touch, would see more of them if we were still in the UK.

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  • voilodian ghagnasdiak
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    I live less than an hour to the North of the Falls. (I was working there today.) I've worked on a lot of the Hotels, Casinos...bla,bla.. down there. It's a breathtaking view from the air when the sun is rising.

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  • Tales from Tanelorn
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    Hey Voilodian, are you really living near Niagara Falls? We are at the opposite end now in Vancouver. I visited Niagara falls when I was about 21. Arrived at midnight and had no where to sleep so I ended up in a sleeping bag and woke up soaked from the spray!
    Yes, Huw is a very nice guy. I saw him one night at a pub in Hendon near where we were living. We all got talking and ended up having dinner and playing music at his place. A very decent, up front, down to earth, friendly guy and also his wife Marion. I think they are living near Oxford now.
    Last edited by Tales from Tanelorn; 11-01-2006, 02:50 PM.

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  • voilodian ghagnasdiak
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    John E. Posted
    There was a time when I would go to every Hawkwind gig I could physically get to and this was the precise reaon: you never knew what you were going to get.
    I'm about ready to call you John Envy because I do!
    Tales From Tanelorn Posted:
    Huw is a great chap and a very accomplished lead guitarist.
    I only got to sit down for a pint with Huw once and he seemed to be a very polite, reserved individual.
    You guys put a bug in m'ead at 4:00 am t'day.
    I stood high above, looking down into, Niagara Falls all day thinking "Huw Lloyd-Langton not a good guitarist??"
    Here's a portion of my argument to the contrary:

    The Reason
    Be Yourself
    Needle Gun
    Moonglum
    Sleep Of a Thousand Tears
    Neon Skylines
    The Sea King
    Waiting for Tomorrow
    World Of Tiers
    Space Chase
    Dangerous Vision
    Nuclear Drive
    Farenheit 451
    Green Finned Demon
    Shot Down In The Night
    Night Of The Hawks


    My Lp's:

    Night Air
    Time Space And LLG
    Like An Arrow Through The Heart


    I too have seen Huwey play live and find him to be an excellent musician. I know that Dave and Huw's styles dont compliment each other 100% of the time but dont make him out to be the Milli-Vanilli of psychedelia.
    Last edited by voilodian ghagnasdiak; 11-01-2006, 02:57 PM.

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  • Tales from Tanelorn
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    Huw is a great chap and a very accomplished lead guitarist. He always did, and still does add to the overall Hawkwind sound. Alot also rests on the way that the music is produced as to whether the sound is ultimately as pleasing as it could be. Moonglum has been a favourite of ours for a long time, but recently Dragons and Fables (Child on the run orignally) is now played most often. I also enjoy the "dueling banjos" effect of Dave and Huw's guitars on Shot Down/Motorway City.
    Last edited by Tales from Tanelorn; 04-15-2007, 05:23 PM.

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  • voilodian ghagnasdiak
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    John E. Posted:
    I prefer Huw's guitar work on the more restrained numbers such as 'Motorway City'.
    I agree that Huw's lead solo's can be a little overwhelming at times but dont ride him off completely. Motorway City is an excellent song, as is Sleep Of A Thousand Tears and the diminishing guitar effects at the end of Void City.The live version of Dreaming City off of the Chaos dvd could bring a tear to the eye of any true Elric fan.
    (Haven't got time to compile a complete list of fav's)....Hi, Ho, Hi, Ho..it's off to...awww you know.

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  • Muroc
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    damn ! can't get the darned thing to play... and yes I do have Javascript turned on and yes I do have the latest version of 'flash' ..... stoopid youtube....

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  • johneffay
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    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock
    if some of the gigs were occasionally a touch shambolic, that was better than being too smooth.
    There was a time when I would go to every Hawkwind gig I could physically get to and this was the precise reaon: you never knew what you were going to get. Some nights it could be average to say the least, but on the good ones, nothing could touch them. I'll take shambolic over pre-packaged sterility any day.

    I agree that Huw is a good gutarist, but he plays over eveything else to the detriment of the wall of sound. When I listen to Hawkwind I want to hear Dave Brock's guitar thrashing away at the front, preferably with a flanger and any other effects he happens to have to hand turned all the way up. I prefer Huw's guitar work on the more restrained numbers such as 'Motorway City'.

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Huw's a fine guitarist. Hawkwind, of course, aren't a metal band, though people sometimes assume they are. The term most commonly used is 'prog-rock'. Although the band's loud and produces a 'wall of sound' effect, it's still rooted in a musical tradition which doesn't have a lot to do with metal. As, of course, you now know! I think one of the reasons the band was about the only 'hippy' band respected by the punks was because it stuck close to its ideals as a 'people's band' and never compromised or transformed itself into a 'glam-rock' band the way many did at the time. There was very rarely any posturing and if some of the gigs were occasionally a touch shambolic, that was better than being too smooth. Hawkwind refused to go on TV and lip-sych, for instance. Their deal was either the gig was done live or it wasn't done at all.

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  • opaloka
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    'Live Chronicles' was my first Hawkwind album. Mike, you had dedicated one of the EC books to Hawkwind and I dutifully went out and bought a Hawkwind record, in 1986 or so, the only one for sale in an area of several million people.

    I hated it! It was way too 'metal' for me and you know in America what Heavy Metal had become was just really showbizzy, stupid pap like Kiss. Might as well listen to Manilow as that stuff. Anyway, it grew on me, I'm a sucker for fantasy lyrics, playful darkness, and there was just something...

    As for Huw's playing, I liked and still like the melodicism which was certainly missing from most guitar work in the eighties and seems to be missing again.

    Sorry for reminiscing and going off topic! Just a great band.

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  • voilodian ghagnasdiak
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    TCOTBS video is the only way that I could kidnap you into my home...And I thank you for the opportunity Mike.
    Last edited by voilodian ghagnasdiak; 10-31-2006, 03:08 PM.

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