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  • Chaz
    Wanderer of the Mittel March
    • Jan 2004
    • 21

    Question

    Can I read The Dreamthief's Daughter before reading the Elric books?
  • Whiskers
    flying cat
    • Nov 2003
    • 1950

    #2
    Yes.
    The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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    • McTalbayne
      Eternal Companion
      • Jan 2004
      • 557

      #3
      You know, you dont have to get Mikes permission before reading his books, right? :lol:
      It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes. But the half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.

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      • Dead-Air
        Eternal Champion
        • Jun 2004
        • 2737

        #4
        Having talked it over with Mike on here, he tends to think of Dream Thief and the next two books as a separate series from the Elric books, so you'd probably be fine.

        On the other hand, starting with the first Elric book, reading through the series, and then hitting the new trilogy is a privelage that old time readers can only envy newer one's of (since the books weren't written in chronological order, but read quite well that way.)
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        • PsychicWarVeteran
          Flesh Bag of Mostly Water
          • Mar 2004
          • 2554

          #5
          Originally posted by Dead-Air
          ...starting with the first Elric book, reading through the series, and then hitting the new trilogy is a privelage that old time readers can only envy newer one's of (since the books weren't written in chronological order...)
          This is a very good point, Dead-Air.

          But, yeah, if you're itching to read The Dreamthief's Daughter, there's no reason you can't. Stories of the Multiverse are cool that way.
          "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
          --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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          • Michael Moorcock
            Site Host
            • Dec 2003
            • 14278

            #6
            Yes, the stories are designed so that you can enter through any series, though it probably isn't a good idea to begin in the middle of, say, the Hawkmoon or Corum series and even the Elric series, though written in, as it were, disorder, are probably best read chronologically, but the current series, which is as much a von Bek series as it is an Elric series, works fine and I can't see anything wrong with beginning there. The Cornelius books, however, WERE designed so that you could enter the series through any of the books in the series.

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            • xidrep
              Champion of the Balance
              • Nov 2004
              • 1783

              #7
              My ex-, K, a barking vet from Yorkshire, spent several long evenings sketching out the 'family tree' of the Cornelius series, and the Pyat canon, and the End of Time books...

              Crazy, man. Out there.

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              • Jeremiah
                Sailor on the Seas of Fate
                • Nov 2004
                • 69

                #8
                Re: Question

                Originally posted by Chaz
                Can I read The Dreamthief's Daughter before reading the Elric books?
                Well you could, but the Death Maggots of Fabled Yuggoth would crawl out of the pages, consume your eyes, and thence proceed to devour your naked, quivering brain.

                Damn. Too much Lvoecraft in my diet recently.

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                • Michael Moorcock
                  Site Host
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 14278

                  #9
                  Actually, I'd be curious to see such a family tree. Wouldn't it look like a plate of spaghetti ? Or a street-plan of London ?

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                  • Mikey_C
                    Champion of the Balance
                    • May 2004
                    • 1511

                    #10
                    Go on, be a devil!

                    PS - My partner's doing this right now - I got her hooked with 'Von Bek' :twisted:
                    \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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                    • xidrep
                      Champion of the Balance
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1783

                      #11
                      Sadly, I no longer have access to the convoluted document. It was indeed like a plate of spaghetti, or the swirling gyri and sulci of a tortured brain. It was a remarkable effort: this was the girl who spent about a year painting an entire desk in the most intricate, psychedelic minutiae - much like the usual cover of that Jay wossname's 'Storming Heaven' - and used to see her dead Grandmother's face appearing in the shades and curves of a wall or a tree...an interesting mind. Raving Mad, of course. :lol:

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                      • Whiskers
                        flying cat
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 1950

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Perdix
                        Sadly, I no longer have access to the convoluted document. It was indeed like a plate of spaghetti, or the swirling gyri and sulci of a tortured brain.
                        One plate of spaghetti w/meat sauce. Order up!

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                        Last edited by Rothgo; 04-24-2010, 05:06 AM.
                        The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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                        • xidrep
                          Champion of the Balance
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 1783

                          #13
                          Yeah! That's a lot like it...Cool. :)

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                          • Governor of Rowe Island
                            Orgone Accumulator
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 5266

                            #14
                            That is bloody fantastic. Who drew it, Berry?

                            Maybe we should submit it to Genes Reunited and see what evolves. I'm sure it would! :twisted:
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                            • xidrep
                              Champion of the Balance
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 1783

                              #15
                              I swear to God my mother's stepmother was Mrs Cornelius: she even used to say:

                              'Ere, Caff!' or 'Caffy' (Mum's name is Kathleen) all the time. She looked like Mrs C, too. Only she woz Souf o' the River, weren't she? Pie and mash, jellied eels.

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