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  • Tarzan Adventures

    Much read about, but I've never even seen a copy of these magazines. I'd like to get hold of a few published during MM's editorship during 1957-58. This is, after all, where the Sojan stories appeared (and thanks to Savoy for republishing those in the 70s for posterity). Has anyone managed to obtain any, how much did you have to pay?

    Any reminiscences of working on the magazine Mr. M? How did you get made editor at such a tender age?
    'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

    Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)

  • #2
    I've seen them priced around twenty quid. I certainly wouldn't pay that and wouldn't suggest anyone else did. It probably involves doing a lot of searching through piles of old American-format comics at car-boot sales and the like. My guess is that they've been pretty picked over by now and you'd have to be very lucky. I only have about ten copies myself. I gave my own pile to a couple of sick kids in the early 60s!

    Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in Europe:
    The Whispering Swarm: Book One of the Sanctuary of the White Friars - The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction
    Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds


    Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in the USA:
    The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
    Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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    • #3
      Re: Tarzan Adventures

      [quote="Aral Vilsn"]Much read about, but I've never even seen a copy of these magazines. I'd like to get hold of a few published during MM's editorship during 1957-58. This is, after all, where the Sojan stories appeared (and thanks to Savoy for republishing those in the 70s for posterity). Has anyone managed to obtain any, how much did you have to pay?
      quote]

      They turn up at comic marts in London fairly regularly, at three or four pounds a time. Usually pretty scruffy with the legendary rusty staples (seems to happen to British comics and mags far more than US ones; poor quality staples?).

      I have a few of these comics. Curiously, given my obsessive collecting habits, I've never been keen to get the whole Moorcock run.

      I just checked, and I have one spare copy with a one-page (non-Sojan) story by a certain Mike J Moorcock in it. Now, in the spirit of the times, if a person were to make a modest donation to Mike's favoured charity, Madecins Sans Frontieres, I could see my way to mailing it to them in a sturdy envelope....

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      • #4
        Thanks, Guy. I still think three quid's too much to pay. I mean they used to be sixpence, for Christ's sake! Oops. Old Fart Attack.
        I ought to go to a few more of those sales.

        Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in Europe:
        The Whispering Swarm: Book One of the Sanctuary of the White Friars - The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction
        Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds


        Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in the USA:
        The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
        Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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        • #5
          Hey, wouldn't it be possible to scan a few pages from those Tarzan and other magazines so that we get an idea what they looked like, what they "felt" like?
          Or too much trouble? I think a number of us younger to very young would appreciate it a lot.
          Best,
          L'E
          Google ergo sum

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          • #6
            Good idea. I'll scan some Tazan Adventures for the image gallery soonish. Don't hold your breath, though. I'll let you know on this thread when I've got round to it.

            Yours,
            That busy fellow,
            Guy

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            • #7
              Guy, how do I get a message to you? If you still have that spare Tarzan Adventures please hold it for me. I tried emailing you but it got chucked out by the Norton Anti Spam. Please email me if you can be of help. Thanks.
              'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

              Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)

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              • #8
                I have e-mailed Mr Wilson (sorry, Vilsn) off-list, but I'm also sending this to see if my profile update has "taken", and if the software is now putting up my e-mail address (or one of those nifty buttons).

                -----------------

                later: oh, good; the nifty button has appeared!

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                • #9
                  Thanks Guy

                  I just wanted to say a public thank you to Guy for his offer of the Tarzan Adventures issue in return for a donation to MSF. I sent a letter with the donation mentioning the MWM forum and Michael himself so that they would know where the idea of the donation came from. So thanks again to Guy for his selflessness and generosity.
                  'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

                  Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)

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                  • #10
                    Can it be just over two years ago that I had no copies of Tarzan Adventures at all? I've just taken delivery of 15 more to add to my collection, courtesy of an ebay seller who graciously allowed me to purchase another 14 at a low price after bidding high on one issue.

                    I now have almost all of vol 8 under Mike's editorship and quite a number of vol 7 (with some notable gaps), plus vol 9 issues with Mike's contributions. It's interesting to see consecutive issues and how the magazine devloped, with involvement from many of Mike's friends and associates - Jim Cawthorn's Peril Planet (set in 1987!) is a particularly nice strip and different to his usual style. Stories from people like Syd Bounds and art by Bill Harry (plus lots of Cawthorn of course).

                    From the letters page it appears there was a quite a bit of interest in the Sojan stories and in a reply to a letter from one reader Mike seemed to indicate that there might have been plans for the stories to appear in book form at the time. Obviously nothing came of this, but was it true?
                    'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

                    Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)

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                    • #11
                      I'd forgotten Bill Harry (founder of Mersey Beat, first publisher of John Lennon etc. etc.) was a contributor!
                      Time (hint, hint) someone did a bibliography of TA.

                      Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in Europe:
                      The Whispering Swarm: Book One of the Sanctuary of the White Friars - The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction
                      Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds


                      Pre-order or Buy my latest titles in the USA:
                      The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
                      Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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                      • #12
                        Dear all,

                        Enough with the hinting, already!

                        As is so often the case, I have the resources for such a thing as a 'T.A.' bibliography, but not the time.

                        Although I have few (if any) originals, I do have a full run of photocopies of entire issues throughout Mike's editorship (and a little way beyond, in each direction).

                        If any of the Usual Suspects -- you know who you are -- would care to come 'round and take a look, making all the notes you wish, you're very much more than welcome.

                        Best,


                        John.

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                        • #13
                          They're welcome to start with this:

                          TA v7 #17, 27/07/1957, Contains 'Meeting Edgar Rice Burroughs' (nf) <first known MM contribution>
                          TA v7 #18, 03/08/1957, Contains 'At the Earth's Core' (nf)
                          TA v7 #19, 10/08/1957, Contains 'Warlord of Mars' (nf)
                          TA v7 #20, 17/08/1957, Contains 'Carson Napier of Venus' (nf)
                          TA v7 #21, 24/08/1957, Contains 'War Chiefs of the Apaches' (nf)
                          TA v7 #22, 31/08/1957, Contains 'Sojan the Swordsman' [1st Sojan]
                          TA v7 #23, 07/09/1957, Contains 'The Cure' (a short, half-page story) [See Post #14 below]
                          TA v7 #24, 14/09/1957
                          TA v7 #25, 21/09/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Mission to Asno' [Sojan] <first MM-edited issue?>
                          TA v7 #26, 28/09/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #27, 05/10/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Dek of Noothar: The Sword of Life' [as by 'John Wisdom']; 'For Your Information' (nf)
                          TA v7 #28, 12/10/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB] & 'Dek of Noothar: The Sword of Life Part 2 - The Strange Ones' [as by 'John Wisdom']; Something About "S-F" No.3: S-F "Fandom"(nf) [as by 'Bob Lumley'] [See Posts #16 & #18 below]
                          TA v7 #29, 19/10/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #30, 26/10/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #31, 02/11/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'The Worldcon of 1957' (nf) [RB], 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 1) [as by 'P.G. Hall] [See Post #26 below]
                          TA v7 #32, 09/11/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB], 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 2) [as by 'P.G. Hall]
                          TA v7 #33, 16/11/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'By Raft to Tokyo' (nf); 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [1]' (spot), 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 3) [as by 'P.G. Hall]
                          TA v7 #34, 23/11/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Revolt In Hatnor' [Sojan]; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [2]' (spot), 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 4) [as by 'P.G. Hall]
                          TA v7 #35, 30/11/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB];'Art of Burne-Hogarth [3]' (spot), 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 5) [as by 'P.G. Hall]
                          TA v7 #36, 07/12/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [4]' (spot), 'Commanding Your Own Army' (Part 6) [as by 'P.G. Hall]
                          TA v7 #37, 14/12/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Four Famous Fighters of World War I' (nf); 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [5]' (spot)
                          TA v7 #38, 21/12/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'The Hordes Attack' [Sojan]; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [6]' (spot)
                          TA v7 #39, 28/12/1957, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 12-page Burne Hogarth strip [French, text by MM], 'Checkmate'; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [7]' (spot);
                          TA v7 #40, 04/01/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Canvas and Wire' (nf); 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [8]' (spot)
                          TA v7 #41, 11/01/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [9]' (spot)
                          TA v7 #42, 18/01/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Mathews and Mars'; 'Art of Burne-Hogarth [10]' (spot)
                          TA v7 #43, 25/01/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #44, 01/02/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #45, 08/02/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Life On Other Planets' #3 (sketch)
                          TA v7 #46, 15/02/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v7 #47, 22/02/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'The Purple Galley' [Sojan]
                          TA v7 #48, 01/03/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'The Sea Wolves' [Sojan]; 'Nine-Ten-But Not Out' (nf)
                          TA v7 #49, 08/03/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Sojan at Sea'
                          TA v7 #50, 15/03/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'The Sea of Demons' [Sojan]
                          TA v7 #51, 22/03/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Prisoners in Stone' [Sojan]
                          TA v7 #52, 29/03/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v8 #01, 05/04/1958
                          TA v8 #02, 12/04/1958
                          TA v8 #03, 19/04/1958, Contains 'Klan the Spoiler' [as by 'J. R. Taylor']
                          TA v8 #04, 26/04/1958
                          TA v8 #05, 03/05/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v8 #06, 10/05/1958, Contains 'Freaks of Flying' (nf)
                          TA v8 #07, 17/05/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM; Review of the magazine Science Fiction Adventures (rv) [RB]
                          TA v8 #08, 24/05/1958
                          TA v8 #09, 31/05/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Sojan and the Plain of Mystery'
                          TA v8 #10, 07/06/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]
                          TA v8 #11, 14/06/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'More Freaks of Flying' (nf)
                          TA v8 #12, 21/06/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Sojan and the Sons of the Snake God'
                          TA v8 #13, 28/06/1958, Contains 'Dek of Noothar: The Siege of Noothar' [as by 'John Wisdom']
                          TA v8 #14, 05/07/1958
                          TA v8 #15, 12/07/1958, Contains Editorial by MJM [RB]; 'Sojan and the Devil Hunters of Norj' [Part 1]
                          TA v8 #16, 19/07/1958, Contains 'Sojan and the Devil-Hunters of Norj' [Part 2] [RB]
                          TA v8 #17, 26/07/1958, Last 'From the Editor' by MM <last MM-edited issue?>
                          TA v8 #18, 02/08/1958, 'Tarzan Club' (ed) [by MM] <last regular MM contribution>
                          TA v8 #19, 09/08/1958
                          TA v8 #20, 16/08/1958
                          TA v8 #21, 23/08/1958, Contains Review of the film The Vikings (rv) [RB]
                          TA v8 #22, 30/08/1958
                          TA v8 #23, 06/09/1958, Contains 'Rens Karto of Bersnol' (with Dick Ellingsworth)
                          TA v8 #24, 13/09/1958
                          TA v8 #25, 20/09/1958
                          TA v8 #26, 27/09/1958
                          TA v8 #27, 04/10/1958
                          TA v8 #28, 11/10/1958
                          TA v8 #29, 18/10/1958
                          TA v8 #30, 25/10/1958
                          TA v8 #31, 01/11/1958
                          TA v8 #32, 08/11/1958
                          TA v8 #33, 15/11/1958
                          TA v8 #34, 22/11/1958
                          TA v8 #35, 29/11/1958
                          TA v8 #36, 06/12/1958
                          TA v8 #37, 13/12/1958
                          TA v8 #38, 20/12/1958
                          TA v8 #39, 27/12/1958
                          TA v8 #40, 03/01/1959
                          TA v8 #41, 10/01/1959
                          TA v8 #42, 17/01/1959
                          TA v8 #43, 24/01/1959, Contains 'The Battle of Apache Canyon' (nf)
                          TA v8 #44, 31/01/1959
                          TA v8 #45, 07/02/1959
                          TA v8 #46, 14/02/1959
                          TA v8 #47, 21/02/1959
                          TA v8 #48, 28/02/1959
                          TA v8 #49, 07/03/1959, Contains 'Renegade Terror: Story of Comancheros' (nf)
                          TA v8 #50, 14/03/1959
                          TA v8 #51, 21/03/1959
                          TA v8 #52, 28/03/1959
                          TA v9 #01, 04/04/1959
                          TA v9 #02, 11/04/1959
                          TA v9 #03, 18/04/1959, Contains 'Dutch Cassidy - The Laughing Rustler' (nf)
                          TA v9 #04, 25/04/1959
                          TA v9 #05, 02/05/1959, Contains 'Captain Jack' (nf)
                          TA v9 #06, 09/05/1959
                          TA v9 #07, 16/05/1959
                          TA v9 #08, 23/05/1959
                          TA v9 #09, 30/05/1959
                          TA v9 #10, 06/06/1959, Contains 'Professor Merit's Monster' <last known MM contribution>

                          NB: That's just a consecutive list of issues from v7 #17 - v9 #10, not necessarily all the issues that Mike worked on.

                          I've also created a Wikiverse page which can be updated as well in due course.

                          Green text followed by [RB] sourced from Richard Bilyeu's bibliography The Tanelorn Archives pp. 77-9
                          Last edited by David Mosley; 08-31-2013, 05:21 PM. Reason: More details of Mike's work on TA added
                          _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                          _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                          _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                          _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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                          • #14
                            Fascinating list David, where did you get it from? It clears up the mystery of the original appearance of Dek of Noothar (the TA appearance isn't listed in the Tanelorn Archives book).

                            You can add 'The Cure' (a short, half-page story) by Mike to Vol 7 No 23.
                            'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

                            Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)

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                            • #15
                              I'd compiled most of the fiction part of that list in the last month as it happens. I was just trying to tie down what work of Mike's appeared in which issues of NW, SF, SFA and TA. Most of the fiction probably comes from the Locus Index to Science Fiction Anthologies and Collections entry for Sojan, although I have a feeling I found a secondary source as well.

                              Possibly. Maybe. Perhaps not. I'm not sure.

                              The non-fiction stuff is from my Moorcock Bibliography: 1955-1960 thread but was first provided by you as it happens (courtesy of the Tanelorn Archives).

                              In that thread Mike adds:

                              Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
                              That list triggered a memory. I also did a series called something like 'Building Your Own Army' which was about collecting toy soldiers!
                              That tended to appear on the inside back page of TA, as I recall.
                              Can you shed any light on that Mark, from your collection?

                              I've added 'The Cure' to the list(s) as well.
                              _"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
                              _For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
                              _And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
                              _He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."

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