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  • Welcome Home!

    Michael,

    Tell us about your vacation! Did you guys get sick from the plane?

    Welcome back!
    The cat spread its wings and flew high into the air, hovering to keep pace with them as they moved cautiously toward the city. Then, as they climbed over the rubble of what had once been a gateway and began to make their way through piles of weed-grown masonry, the cat flew to the squat building with the yellow dome upon its roof. It flew twice around the dome and then came back to settle on Jhary's shoulder. - The King of the Swords

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    Well, it wasn't entirely a vacation. Though I must say we had some good, lazy days in Spain, during extra fine weather, and my foot has
    begun to heal much faster. Paris was less lazy, but with more meals out.
    We found both the Spanish and the French, and the German people we
    socialised with, all very pro-American but seriously anti-Bush. Not uncritical of their own governments, of course, as people tend to be. The
    irony of Chirac being in opposition to Bush wasn't lost on a lot of us.
    The weather was astonishingly good, with everywhere we went enjoying an Indian summer, until a bit of rain caught up with us in Paris and a bit more in New York, which made it hard for me to go out, since I have to avoid my injured foot getting wet. Nantes was perhaps the best convention I've ever attended. Extraordinarily well-organised, though somewhat exhausted. I was doing interviews from early in the morning until my first panel or public interview or signing and only had time for a couple of good meals (you can't help talking and thinking food in France), one of them when a bunch of us went to a beautiful belle epoque restaurant. I've said elsewhere what a letdown it was to return to the US,
    though not to NY, one the great cities of the world and one of my own favourites, especially when I looked out of the window the first morning at the beautiful fall trees of Grammercy Park, with its fine statue of
    Booth as Macbeth, and saw a huge new white flagpole with a massive US flag utterly ruining the aesthetics of the scene. Even in NY there were noisy slogans and flags on many cars. It was then I realised what I HADN'T been looking at everywhere in Europe (i.e. national flags) and how civilised that felt. It's a bit too early for me to go into all that, including the depression everyone felt at Bush's re-election, since I had become used to a different pace, different priorities, better informed arguments and had forgotten just how full of meaningless noise the US
    is -- it hits you from every side. There was a time when American vulgarity went hand in hand with American optimism and generosity, but those latter two qualities seem to have vanished from the psychic landscape. Maybe I'll feel better about it all later. I certainly hope so.
    At the moment, however, I rather wish I'd turned round and gone straight back to Old Europe... Meanwhile I need all the smart people at this site to do their best to remind me that there are indeed two Americas and that one of them is still the one I love!

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    • #3
      Welcome back Mike!!

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      • #4
        Yes, welcome back, Mr. M!

        Ah, to travel around Europe in an RV, solving crimes . . . wait, that was a TV show, wasn't it?

        Now that you're back, you can resume testing super-sonic aircraft in the upper reaches of . . . no, that was a movie??

        Now I'm full-blown gonzo confused!

        Welcome back anyhow! :D
        Madness is always the best armor against Reality

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        • #5
          It seems it hasn't taken that long for people like those of the Bush administration to develop fail proof strategies for taking and keeping control.

          1. fear mongering
          2. control of the media and use of propoganda
          3. socio-economic policies that have created vastly ignorant citizens who are working too much, who are interested and distracted by a large number of "unimportant things," who don't care about politics, and when they do take interest, are misinformed.
          4. making non-political issues important political issues to influence voting
          5. inadequate basic schooling (k-12)
          6. doing anything it takes to win, even if it is dishonest. (propoganda, voter fraud)

          did I miss anything?

          It all feeds into a vicious cycle.
          \"Bush\'s army of barmy bigots is the worst thing that\'s happened to the US in some years...\"
          Michael Moorcock - 3am Magazine Interview

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          • #6
            Welcome back! glad you had a safe and happy venture. (sorry you've come back to bush being elected, nothing i can do about it now.) but... glad to have your safe return. looking forward to many deep, interesting threads and replies.

            cheers!

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            • #7
              Thanks, pards. MWM will soon restore my optimism, if not about the world, at least about a lot of the people in it... If only they hadn't stuck that fugging flagpole in the middle of Grammercy Park when the trees were at their golden best and the lovely statue of Booth looked so
              handsome. A thirty foot pole in one of the most beautiful little zones of tranquility in all NY. It seemed the whole of the US had gone barmy at that point, either from fear and manipulation or from misery at the election. No doubt I'll get over it in time...

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              Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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              • #8
                Welcome home Mike! :)

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                • #9
                  Cheers, pard. My optimism is getting hard to revive though, especially with the news that the awful Ms Rice is to be the new Secretary of State.
                  Not the most diplomatic, nor most intelligent, of politicians. Wonder what she'll make of the NBC shots of the soldier shooting an unarmed, wounded man in a mosque ? That should be interesting, though no doubt she'll try to ignore it. Any chance of an improving rapprochement between the US and the rest of the world seems to be disappearing daily.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock
                    ... Any chance of an improving rapprochement between the US and the rest of the world seems to be disappearing daily.
                    I am convinced "the rest of the world" is too much of a burdon and there is no true interest in rapprochement, except perhaps with countries that might provide troops, of course, in willing coalitions for the next conquests.
                    "Good relations" imply too many compromises and will hence be discarded in time, now that - as it seems apparent - the voters have approved of the Bushovik preemptive war concept and the invasion of Irag by reelecting this administration.
                    Any arguments afloat to allay my pessimism?
                    Google ergo sum

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                    • #11
                      Just as so many US voters voted totally against their own self-interest, the appointment of Rice is also against US self-interest, so it isn't merely a question of, say, Europe vs the US. The US needs to trade and it's already becoming evident that customers are already choosing alternatives to US products. Admittedly, Hollywood continues to be one of the main earners for the US. Given that Hollywood is largely anti-Bush, it's an irony. The artificially low dollar (as a result of deficit and so on) allows an illusion of maintained income at the moment, but sooner or later the Europeans will take steps to lower the value of the Euro against the dollar, which will go a long way to remove that particular buffer.

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                      Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds


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                      The Laughter of Carthage - Byzantium Endures - London Peculiar and Other Nonfiction - The Sunday Books - Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles
                      Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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                      • #12
                        The Austin-American Statesman ran a great editorial this morning about similar issues. I can't remember the author and I hate to not give credit, but...

                        The crux of the argument is that people voted "moral values," yet so much of what they were really voting against were products of who they voted for. For instance, people were concerned about morality on broadcast television, especially Fox, but the same people rely on Fox News for their "truths." Similarly, people feared the egghead Northeasterner, but felt that the multimillionaire son of privilege was more like them (?), even though his entire administration has been about protecting elite interests. In short, W's administration encourages greed, the ultimate non-moral value. The big point was that people who pose at cultural warriors are perhaps more responsible for what outrages people than the people they attack.

                        Interesting.

                        I'll try to remember to track down the author and where this was originally published.

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                        • #13
                          Good to hear you had a excellent holiday(didnt want to use good twice in a sentence - damn i just did).
                          Sucks how Bush was re-elected. Although Kerry would probably be almost as bad. And also Nader would never be voted in!
                          I read an interesting thing in a local paper about the hypocrisy of some Brits complaining about Bush then going and voting for Labour when it came to election day.

                          Well, thats my rant for the day thanks for reading whoever did.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Michael Moorcock
                            Wonder what she'll make of the NBC shots of the soldier shooting an unarmed, wounded man in a mosque ?
                            I felt physically sick today listening to a racist rant about this from a phone-in listener on Radio 2's "Jeremy Vine" (successor to the loathsome Jimmy Young) show.

                            General consensus from this particular Middle England ghetto appears to be that "Shoot first, ask questions later" is acceptable when dealing with alleged "barbarians". Even a British soldier with experience of operations of Northern Ireland was harangued when he quite reasonably pointed out that this type of behaviour from US Marines was endangering "our" troops. It didn't seem to occur to these people, as they raved on about WW2 and D.Day, that this is actually somebody else's country! :x

                            So rest assured that the mad people aren't just in the States with you, Mr Moorcock. Incidentally, what do the French, and yourself, make of Peter Mandelson as EU Trade Commissioner? Please try to use language suitable for a family audience!
                            \"...an ape reft of his tail, and grown rusty at climbing, who yet feels himself to be a symbol and the frail representative of Omnipotence in a place that is not home.\" James Branch Cabell

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                            • #15
                              Bush's crazy liberal economics are doing enormous harm to those who give him their support. The consequences of these policies are then blamed on some mysterious force represented by the liberal 60s.
                              I'd say let the idiots stew in their own juice if their support for Bush and Co wasn't spilling out over the whole world.
                              If Brits did vote Labour while disapproving of the war that could be because half Blair's own party is against the war and Blair finds himself isolated, no longer representing the British public in his support of the war. They could also be voting for Blair's domestic policies, which are rather more in the public interest, it seems, than Bush's. However, since there hasn't been a general election since the war began, we'll have to see if these voters are, indeed, doing what that newspaper says. It's hard to see how they obtained this information, since there has been no election. I would probably vote for my local Labour MP if he had voted against the war (as so many did), especially since Labour has improved a number of public institutions since they came to power. That said, I'd probably vote Liberal, since the whole Liberal party was against the war.
                              I wouldn't vote Conservative because that party seems as much in disarray as the Democrats in the US and have very little to offer the voters, especially since Labour has taken over most of the Tories' most popular policies. One of the issues which would determine who had my vote, for instance, would be over immigration. We do need immigrants in all our mature democracies, in order to maintain the tax base which will provide social security for an ageing population.

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                              Doctor Who: The Coming of the Terraphiles - Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - Modem Times 2.0 - The Sunday Books - The Sundered Worlds


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                              Kizuna: Fiction for Japan - The Sundered Worlds - The Winds of Limbo - Modem Times 2.0 - Elric: Swords and Roses

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