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  • Beezus
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    Hello Mike, Kommando et al-Sorry for getting back to you all so late but I was travelling. Drove cross country with my son. (Mike ,I yelled "hello" while driving thru Texas-did you hear me?) Am working as quickly as time will allow to get some images together for a post-hopefully on Monday I'll be able to upload some. Since I was in a car for a bit (Geez-it's a big country) I've spent a lot of time looking at-guess what-maps. I can't seem to escape them. So I think there will be some revises to existing maps (I was never really happy with the Hawkmoon map) in the future and perhaps some new ones. Plus I'll include some "odds and sods" as it were - I've been digging thru some boxes in the attic.Always amusing to confront your earlier self. Strange ,while looking at some old New Worlds-I was thinking of Eduardo Paolozzi and then read of his death. How sad.

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  • Krimson
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    Hah! I have found the new comics you have done with Walt, and now have the means to purchase them. I look forward to seeing the new "old" map. Thanks for the heads up!

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    People interested in such things might get a kick out of the new 'old' map which Walter and I have done for the Young Kingdoms when they were still the Even Younger Tribes Out in Elric Number Three, which is shaping up nicely and has been worth waiting for from Walter!

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  • Krimson
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    Hey there John,

    Its nice to see a new face around here. I think I have seen incarnations of your maps and should you manage to scan and upload them I would really love to take a look at them. Being visually oriented, I have always enjoyed looking at the layout of Melnibone, Pan Tang and the Young Kingdoms, particularly with my background as a gamer. I am quite dismayed about Chaosium's treatment of the people who basically have them a reason to exist, which is a shame since they really have no reason to be so ignorant. All in all, I just want to extend a thanks to you, who along with MM, have filled my imagination with many beautiful creations over the years.

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  • Marca
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    It's a UK paperback series John, reprinting a number of Mike's works as well as those of other authors. Here's a link to the UK Amazon Elric listing:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...499173-0403837

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  • Beezus
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    Aral- Not familiar with Fantasy Masterworks-is that a UK or US publisher? Will have to look for that-has it just come out?

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  • Marca
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    Although John's map was missing from the UK Grafton editions, I noticed that it appears in the Fantasy Masterworks Elric edition that I saw in the shops the other day (and is in a slightly bigger form than the DAW version since the book is trade paperback format).

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  • Beezus
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    Savoy Books/Colin Mackay

    God-I have really been out of touch too long-the Savoy Book site is fantastic. Thanks for the heads up. Time to make a serious dent in the wallet.
    On another topic altogether, have you ever read anything by the late Scottish writer, Colin Mackay? Song of the Forest remains one of my favorites. Lots of echoes in there. Just seems like someone you would be familiar with. Any other Colin Mackay fans out there?

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Chaosium are notorious not just for not paying me, but for not paying many of their contributors. So join the gang, as it were.
    Jim doesn't have a website but you can find him well represented on the Savoy Books site. It shouldn't be hard to find. They reproduce quite a lot of his work, along with their own Lord Horror stuff. I suppose you could call them my favourite publisher.

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  • Beezus
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    Maps

    Hello Mike,et al- Your mention of the Chaosium map jogged my memory as to why it was uncredited.
    They had contacted me about wanting to use the Elric map (we are going back here a bit in time) ,but didn't have any money to pay for anything and besides they were going to redraw it to correct some errors-so would I mind if they did all that?
    Well I never really considered the map "mine" to begin with. It's really all yours-so I said yes-But-should there be any moneys available please donate it Mike's favorite charity and just send me some proof that you did that. Well needless to say I never heard from them again. But just out of curiousity-do you remember if they ever did that?
    Thanks for the heads up on the next appearance of the map-I look forward to seeing it. Walter Simonson is great-isn't he?
    I guess I could just google this next question,but does Jim Cawthorn have a website? I'd like to drop him a note.
    Regards,
    John

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  • Whiskers
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    John,

    Thanks for the story. I wanted to let you know that it's very simple (if time consuming) to upload images. If you go to http://www.multiverse.org/imagehive/v/misc/album58/ you'll find instructions on how to upload them. If you have a large volume of images to upload, we can further accomodate you. Please be as decriptive in your captions as possible.

    You can start as soon as you like. :lol:
    Last edited by Rothgo; 04-09-2010, 05:40 AM.

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Very nice to hear from you John.
    Your map was uncannily like the one I drew for myself and which Jim Cawthorn did for our private use. I thought that map appeared in one of the UK books, but it could be a false memory. I wouldn't like people to think I never used maps -- I did. Hawkmoon, of course, was the easiest. I just needed a map of Europe. Similarly with Corum, I made it Western England when the Scilly Islands were still attached to the mainland. Places like Michael's Mount in Cornwall and a lot of Cornish/Celtic names.

    Grafton never took much trouble with the editions. They reached a point where I had to step in and start demanding better and more pertinent covers. The last Grafton edition of Revenge of the Rose would have been utterly horrible if I hadn't insisted on getting in touch with Robert Gould and commissioning a new cover myself. To be fair to him, the editor, Malcolm Edwards, reckoned the cover sold a lot more copies than the one they had been going to use.
    The map will appear again, in an EARLIER form, when Walter Simonson delivers the third episode of our Elric story to DC.
    All maps are based on the Collier/Cawthorn map, even when not credited. I seem to recall the ones done for the Chaosium board games aren't credited.
    Somewhere out there I wouldn't be surprised if my original Elric map doesn't exist. It might be at the Bodliean, or in private hands, like the manuscripts of the early Elric stories. I had a habit of throwing everything in a big box once I was done with it and then sending the boxes to the annual British sf convention to be auctioned on behalf of TAFF (the Transatlantic Fan Fund, which sent a British fan to an American convention one year, and an American fan to a British convention the other -- this was in the days when air travel was beyond the pockets of most ordinary people).

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  • Marca
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    Very glad you're still visiting the site John. Good to hear from you again. I'm sure everybody here would be interested in hearing any further memories of your work with DAW. Did you ever meet Michael Whelan? I look forward to those scans when you're able to put them up.

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    Hello again

    Aral- Hello. John Collier aka Beezus here. My first reply to this was "eaten" by cyber space-so I hope I'm not repeating myself should it find it's way on-line. I've been "lurking" here as it were-just trying to play catch-up. Have really been enjoying the Photoshop work on the various actors who might portray Elric. Great stuff. What a creative group of people.

    Thanks for the kind words regarding the DAW editions. They WERE done with a lot of love-I remember torturing myself over what side of the Zaphra-Trepek River the city of Iosaz (I think) should be placed! A small detail I realize now-I doubt-I KNOW now- that Mike could have cared less-it smacks of "world building" and Mikes' landscape is much more a function of interior state of mind than actual geography. But at the time it was an interesting exercise and helped me to plot the movement of my favorite character across his world. And in a very real sense,it helped me plot my awkward way thru this world.

    A few words about DAW in the early 70s. It was an exciting place to visit. I only visited a few times to drop off stuff but there was a real buzz there. They seemed really committed to what they were doing. Mr. Wollheim was a great man on many,many levels. All this great cover art laying around. Mr. Wollheim showed me a original Norman Rockwell he had stashed in a closet. OK so it was a portrait of Richard Nixon-not my choice of subject matter- but it was a REAL Rockwell-right next to a REAL Mike Whelan. I was in heaven. And I was there all because Mike was kind enough to take a chance on some kid who worked up enough courage to hop on an elevator with him and his agent at a Science Fiction convention in New York. I doubt I ever sweated that much in my young life. Nervous beyond nervous. But Mike was so-so normal and actually liked (sort of) what I showed him.

    I still have my letters from Mike we used to exchange before the rise of the internet-and I wander off into the land of advertising. How cool was it to be corresponding with your favorite writer! How wonderful is this site to be able to exchange ideas,thoughts,etc. at the push of a button. Alright, I'm gushing.

    I will try to contribute more-I have been slowly scanning some things the group may find interesting. Thanks again for the kind words. And thank you Mike for giving yourself so freely to your fans. And so much more.

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  • Marca
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    I spotted this thread while doing a search and thought I'd resurrect it, as I missed it first time round. Interesting to hear from John, I always liked his map in the DAW Elric books, although normally that kind of thing doesn't bother me in fantasy books. Like Mike, I'm a big fan of the DAW editions of his work, I think they had a lot of love and care put into them. By the way, the maps appear to be missing from the UK Grafton reprints for some reason.

    John, are you still there? Come back and post some more

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