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  • J-Sun
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    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
    There are other differences, too. He's married with children for example. They can't ALL be tragedies!
    We've had that debate on which one is the end of the Eternal Champion sequence. Quest for Tanelorn, the Multiverse comic, etc. This is why I like QfT as the end of the sequence. A harsh job for the Champion, but in the end, at least one aspect gets a happy ending. Also maybe why thta is one of my favorite MM books.

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  • wiredwullff
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    off topic>I understand about pain meds...

    Originally posted by Rob Hansen View Post
    Originally posted by David Mosley View Post
    Originally posted by Rob Hansen View Post
    We've seen in THE QUEST FOR TANELORN THE CHAMPION OF GARATHORM when <SPOILER>
    Just a minor correction there, Rob.
    D'oh! And I only reread those books a couple of months ago, too. Oh, and apologies for omitting the spoiler tags. I blame the pain meds for all this.
    This is off topic [not Hot Topic haha] But I hear you about pain meds-I sawed into my knee without feeling it and only knew when someone pointed it out-one other time I was working in construction and the guy using a skill saw left the blade in backwards[you should always check]and I cut through four layers of leather[mountain climbing boots] and three layers of socks to nick my foot and drawing only a little blood...lucky it was cold and I was not wearing my usual cheap boots or tennis shoes: I would have lost my foot. Those warnings on the meds are there for a reason... there's more but the point's been made.
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  • Rob Hansen
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    Originally posted by David Mosley View Post
    Originally posted by Rob Hansen View Post
    We've seen in THE QUEST FOR TANELORN THE CHAMPION OF GARATHORM when <SPOILER>
    Just a minor correction there, Rob.
    D'oh! And I only reread those books a couple of months ago, too. Oh, and apologies for omitting the spoiler tags. I blame the pain meds for all this.

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  • wiredwullff
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    About Merged post...

    I just realized I may have stepped on some toes and trod into the realms of writers.. I hope I haven't ruined a good idea for future Elric by either putting it forth or hitting close to something already thought of-If it needs a disclaimer-this is it. If this wont work ask. sorry it should have been private mail
    Last edited by wiredwullff; 04-16-2011, 11:40 PM. Reason: wanted to add the word may

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  • David Mosley
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    Originally posted by Rob Hansen View Post
    We've seen in THE QUEST FOR TANELORN THE CHAMPION OF GARATHORM when <SPOILER>
    Just a minor correction there, Rob.

    Originally posted by wiredwullff
    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
    There are other differences, too. He's married with children for example. They can't ALL be tragedies!
    That's a great line "they can't ALL be tragedies" and would make a nice t-shirt. I'm waiting for mine. And I like you employed the lovable!
    There's an alternative ending for Hawkmoon in The White Wolf's Son, I believe.
    Last edited by David Mosley; 04-15-2011, 10:56 AM.

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  • wiredwullff
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    Originally posted by Rob Hansen View Post
    We've seen in THE QUEST FOR TANELORN when
    Thanks so much! for your reply!I have mainly read Eric books but Iv'e also read the Corum series and some of the other books to within the multiverse event horizon but I usally have to read them five or six times or more before they stick! You answered my question well and left me happy!

    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
    Hawkmoon survived because his story allowed him to survive (as far as we know) but he was also a hero of a different temperament to the others. Not every hero shares the same fate even if the central story is essentially a tragedy. The thing to remember is that the nature of my multiverse is fundamentally optimistic but it takes a lot of sacrifice and misery on the part of various heroes (and others) to keep it running! Elric uses the 'stolen energy' as fuel. Whether any of that fuel remains for long in the sword I can't say, though Elric, I agree, remains trapped in that sword. Maybe someone else will deal with what happens to Elric if he survives within the sword! I'm now collaborating with two other people in continuing E's adventures before Stormbringer. Maybe one of those will come up with an idea of what happens if Elric and Stormbringer were separated. I'm not sure I'll live long enough, given the number of books I'd like to write, to tell that story myself!
    Whoa-That's a" if Elic survive's" coming from you the writer! I hope you allow him to live !
    . Ever consider a short story collection of short unconnected Elric Tales? Like "A thing that happend In a tavern in ______.? Your THE Master!

    On the other hand-it may be difficult to find anyone who will not find a good sized group decrying their writing of Elric even if it's someone you hand picked or a small group or team{I very much enjoyed the fanbook which had a forward by you, especially the first story with Hendrix meeting Elric} just as it is difficult to replace any unique individual talent. It's easier to be a critic and say something could have been done better or has flaws. Perhaps [and I am not asking!] you left the character "hanging" like that in a way that it could rest with thought on it-and if need be rest for good neither living or dead to be able to do other projects[Which smacks of a serial like flash gordon-serials should continue[or Flash should finish off Ming for good and end it], stories like movies can have open endings with room for speculation so I guess it could be left there for the imagination to take over of each individual reader to his likes. I have to say I still would expect many to attempt to fill the niche if none are picked{out of love for the story and/or a instant money maker}{so I hope your copyrights are strong and built to last,no room for unauthorized saga streams}. I hope none of my comments are rude, they are not meant to be.

    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
    There are other differences, too. He's married with children for example. They can't ALL be tragedies!
    That's a great line "they can't ALL be tragedies" and would make a nice t-shirt. I'm waiting for mine. And I like you employed the lovable!
    Last edited by wiredwullff; 04-15-2011, 03:21 PM. Reason: Merged posts

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  • Rob Hansen
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    We've seen in THE QUEST FOR TANELORN when
    Last edited by Governor of Rowe Island; 04-14-2011, 07:48 AM. Reason: Added spoiler tags

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  • dasNdanger
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    Originally posted by Michael Moorcock View Post
    ...though Elric, I agree, remains trapped in that sword. Maybe someone else will deal with what happens to Elric if he survives within the sword! I'm now collaborating with two other people in continuing E's adventures before Stormbringer. Maybe one of those will come up with an idea of what happens if Elric and Stormbringer were separated. I'm not sure I'll live long enough, given the number of books I'd like to write, to tell that story myself!

    Mike, that's the best thing you could ever say! Only, I would love such a story to come from you, since you know Elric better than anyone.



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    Last edited by dasNdanger; 04-15-2011, 10:42 AM.

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  • Michael Moorcock
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    Hawkmoon survived because his story allowed him to survive (as far as we know) but he was also a hero of a different temperament to the others. Not every hero shares the same fate even if the central story is essentially a tragedy. The thing to remember is that the nature of my multiverse is fundamentally optimistic but it takes a lot of sacrifice and misery on the part of various heroes (and others) to keep it running! Elric uses the 'stolen energy' as fuel. Whether any of that fuel remains for long in the sword I can't say, though Elric, I agree, remains trapped in that sword. Maybe someone else will deal with what happens to Elric if he survives within the sword! I'm now collaborating with two other people in continuing E's adventures before Stormbringer. Maybe one of those will come up with an idea of what happens if Elric and Stormbringer were separated. I'm not sure I'll live long enough, given the number of books I'd like to write, to tell that story myself!

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  • wiredwullff
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    A very interesting question!

    Originally posted by Shenegar Trott View Post
    Michael, I have been an avid reader of your work since the mid 1970's and there is one question I must ask. Concerning the last couple of chapters of The Quest for Tanelorn, why is Hawkmoon the only incarnation of the Eternal Champion to
    As you areaware,
    If you could answer this for me, I would very much appreciate it.
    As far as the spoiler on elric
    Last edited by Rothgo; 04-12-2011, 12:17 AM. Reason: Merged two posts into one and added spoiler tags

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  • GuyLawley
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    David! You brought back the blue links at the bottom of the page; plus everything is New! and Improved!!

    Thank the Balance for you tech-y chaps!

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  • David Mosley
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    Vance Kovacs

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  • white wolf's son
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    Originally posted by Kevin McCabe View Post
    Yup, the conversation was about Hawkmoon, so I figured I would point out that this nice, new, illustrated is out and at a reasonable price! Not sure about Tor, the Caveman.
    Kevin, who illustrates the latest Hawkmoon books? I have the series from the 70's but I'd be interested to see who is doing artwork for this series.

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  • Kevin McCabe
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    Thanks!

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  • Thongor
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    All of Kubert's Tor comics were collected a few years back in some nice hardbacks. They show up on ebay pretty frequently. Well worth having.

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