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Old 02-27-2013, 03:36 PM
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Default Moorcock on ERB & Princess of Mars

Greetings,

Could anyone point me in the direction of an essay - or essays - that Mike has written on The Princess of Mars? I teach the novel in my sf class and have read a fair amount of criticism on the book, but I would really love to here Mike's considered opinion. I'm sure that I've been looking in the wrong places, so if someone could set me right, I would appreciate it!

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Default Edgar Rice Burroughs:

Well, Mike wrote the foreword for the 2005 edition of Master of Adventure: The Worlds of Edgar Rice Burroughs, which was reprinted in Into The Media Web as well as articles for Tarzan Adventures (such as 'Meeting Edgar Rice Burroughs', TA v7 n17 and 'Warlord of Mars', TA v7 n19) and (most likely) his Burroughsania fanzines but I don't know if they focus(ed) on APoM specifically.
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_"For an eternity Allard was alone in an icy limbo where all the colours were bright and sharp and comfortless.
_For another eternity Allard swam through seas without end, all green and cool and deep, where distorted creatures drifted, sometimes attacking him.
_And then, at last, he had reached the real world – the world he had created, where he was God and could create or destroy whatever he wished.
_He was supremely powerful. He told planets to destroy themselves, and they did. He created suns. Beautiful women flocked to be his. Of all men, he was the mightiest. Of all gods, he was the greatest."
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Only a tiny piece in TARZAN ADVENTURES prob 1956/7!
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Thanks, Mike.

I'll rut around and see what I can find!

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If you don't have the TA piece to hand, I'm sure one of us can track it down, though I suspect it will be very brief.

Not sure if you've seen it (and not directly related to your request), but when doing some searching I found this piece by John C. Wright, unfavourably comparing Mike's Mars pastiches with the Burroughs originals:

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'You know, I can't keep up with you. If I hadn't met you in person, I quite honestly would NOT believe you really existed. I just COULDN'T. You do so MUCH... if half of what goes into your zines is to be believed, you've read more at the age of 17 than I have at the age of 32 - LOTS more'

Archie Mercer to Mike (Burroughsania letters page, 1957)
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Cheers, Marca -- I appreciate it!

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ERB had all the literary merit of a Bazooka Joe comic, but what a story teller. The man could suck you into the most absurd and illogical tales-and never lose your interest for a moment.

That's a writer!

To Hell with uplifting literature, the name of the game is entertainment, and ERB could do that. He had the guts of a burglar, too, he ripped off "The Prisoner of Zenda" in the most brazen act of piracy since Blackbeard, while the ink was still wet on the original. (OK, that an exageration) Maybe he liked it a lot, or needed some money. Mickey Spillaine used to write a new Mike Hammer every time he wanted a new boat, hard to tell.

The more you analyze ERB, the more you injure the willing suspension of disbelief(Sure, Tarzan taught himself to read while living among monkeys. And decided that he should shave with his Daddy's hunting knife, apropos of nothing a'tall. Not frackin' EVEN!).

Stories like this are like music, to be enjoyed, not analyzed! Those who can write them are a treasure for the ages.

Though it can be fun to take a wonderful mechanical toy apart to see how it works(the innards of the Magic Eight Ball are illustrated by Wikipedia, but be warned, it'll never be quite the same for you, the mystery is gone).

Let us love ERB's wonderful, impossible Barsoom.
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I didn't look at the piece but people don't appear to know that I was satirising ERB in those books. Affectionately. I noticed how JC will often state his 'code' and then do something completely at odds to it, so I tried to make Kane stick to the code with the result that he's backing off a lot in the last book. The heroes of ERB stories supply almost the whole dynamic and can't ever be passive.
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ERB cries out for parody.

'Miriam Birnbaum , Barbarian Swordsperson','nuff said.

And as for you missing the point?

You don't do that.
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